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RESET_9999 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:35 pm

3- well both formats will give the same quality, none of them is pointless ....

FEL to MEL convertion keeps redundant NLQ values in RPU which is used for FEL
If the goal to strip EL and keep final stream as close as possible to Dolby specs - convert to p8

Thank you very much for the information. Very useful. I wanted to ask: 1- What are the chances that nvidia will solve your colour problem with the Nvidia Shield in DoVi? I've been waiting for months, and I'm giving it up :-( 2- Is there any other external player, which is compatible with FEL, and h...

Manixx2020beyound wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:18 pm

@ lexyz
What’s the time duration on the shuttle scene?
I would like to try a fel comparison in rgb8 & LLDV for total recall using the x700.

Have you had the opportunity to make a comparison yet?

pete19
I'm glad you figure it out

Manixx2020beyound wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:18 pm

@ lexyz
What’s the time duration on the shuttle scene?
I would like to try a fel comparison in rgb8 & LLDV for total recall using the x700.

Around 43:20 mark
Screenshot is not from UHD disk

There is no reason to use player-led (LLDV) on LG
For Sony it is only option (except XH90)

But if you have a Sony Bravia TV with LLDV there is a dilemma :D : - Play it on BR player or clone with artefacts and muted colors - Play it on Shield TV Pro with richer but inaccurate colors (red push) and without EL - Play it on any device as HDR10 version with proper colors. I suggest Bravia owne...

userr Shield plays p7 STDL (mkv or ts) BL and RPU (metadata). It is 100% FEL is unclear. There is no test patterns to tell for sure. Probaly new SM UHD Benchmark disk will have one. Will see in Q2'21 But after numerous viewings of "Shuttle scene" in Total Recall I tend to belive Shield ju...

Regarding LLDV and Blu-Ray players It seems all of them had identical Dolby SDK and provide same results p7 FEL and p8 version show same artefacts and muted colors on LLDV X700+XF90 So FEL is not a cause. Could be metadata processing Meanwhile Shield LLDV demonstrates noticable better picture - less...

SMH... sorry to repeat myself but you can't draw ANY conclusion by comparing some videos on youtube with your own TV photo... it's just meaningless and useless (not scientific)... the only valid comparison here is the shield vs x700 assuming you used exactly the same camera settings which we CAN'T ...

Ok
I desaturated whole picture but point of interest
For my eye Shield's STDL more close to Oppo TV-led than Oppo or X700 Player-led
Why?

Guys, don't compare hue sharpness, brightness or clipping
I can't set my camera and TV to match Vincent's
Do not make conclusion about this parameters


Only thing to look at is the shape of yellow spot
Zoom in if you're on mobile.
Can't you see the similarities and differences?

I share this picture to discuss possible reasons why Shield TV Player-led STDL very close to Oppo TV-led DTDL
Any ideas?
Pay attention on yellow beak

Good news, everyone!
Another player supports DV mkv's
Behold Kodi test builds both for 18 and 19 versions
Andoroid only for now
https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?ti ... pid2997625

pete19 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:24 pm

sorry, it's been years since this was released. don't have a source at hand, simply google... you'll find posts, blogs etc...

Do you suggest me to search for a proof for your statement? Really?
I would rather not spend time on this misconception.

pete19 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:18 am

I guarantee you it's 12bit 422 for DV profile 7 FEL

Link your source please