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Re: Why Do I Need a Beta Key to Rip DVDs?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:47 am
by rtaft
koberulz wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:49 am
st4evr wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:01 am
Your DVDs/BDs will not explode or run away in the small timeframe you have to wait for the key to be updated by Mike.
Speaking as someone who's found during this backup process that a large number of my discs have rotted and are unreadable...not necessarily true.
I had an entire series of a show I went to rip and every other disk would not work. It wasn't scratched but it was in a clear case. They do eventually break down like most things, especially if regularly exposed to sunlight.

Re: Why Do I Need a Beta Key to Rip DVDs?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:24 pm
by st4evr
rtaft wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:47 am
koberulz wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:49 am
st4evr wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:01 am
Your DVDs/BDs will not explode or run away in the small timeframe you have to wait for the key to be updated by Mike.
Speaking as someone who's found during this backup process that a large number of my discs have rotted and are unreadable...not necessarily true.
I had an entire series of a show I went to rip and every other disk would not work. It wasn't scratched but it was in a clear case. They do eventually break down like most things, especially if regularly exposed to sunlight.
Granted, but I find it very hard to believe the media would “rot” or fail specifically in the 2-4 day timeframe (often he updates it within a day when possible) it normally takes Mike to update the free key. For something this extreme it takes weeks or years in some or most instances and/or various other factors outside their control. It would be unfair to blame him or any other developer/software vendor for such unfortunate events, specially if it’s that extremely urgent for you and/or others, then there is the purchase option or other competitors whom also offer similar functionality to create backups.

I personally do not use MakeMKV exclusively. I have other pieces of software for this as well (4 in total). The more tools and experience you have in your toolbox, the less headaches you’ll have. Mike makes a great tool, but it’s not the only tool and I can’t rely on his being here for eternity due to the volatility of this scene and he being a human being and all.

MakeMKV is not the “be all end all” software for these tasks, again, despite being a great piece of software. And no one here, including myself, is the center of Mike’s universe when it comes to this.

Re: Why Do I Need a Beta Key to Rip DVDs?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:54 pm
by d00zah
Well said.

Re: Why Do I Need a Beta Key to Rip DVDs?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:24 pm
by geogan
rtaft wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:47 am
koberulz wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:49 am
st4evr wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:01 am
Your DVDs/BDs will not explode or run away in the small timeframe you have to wait for the key to be updated by Mike.
Speaking as someone who's found during this backup process that a large number of my discs have rotted and are unreadable...not necessarily true.
I had an entire series of a show I went to rip and every other disk would not work. It wasn't scratched but it was in a clear case. They do eventually break down like most things, especially if regularly exposed to sunlight.
The user writeable ones do yes, because the writing is done using a special ink that is susceptable to sunlight... but I don't think commercial discs are affected by light... the actual data on them are physical pits (holes) on a printed plastic.

Re: Why Do I Need a Beta Key to Rip DVDs?

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:11 am
by Mtenga
Crockett wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:31 am
No answer is also an answer. I don't mind paying for software at all, but what I don't like is a wishiwashi game like this. @Mike: no rush, I just went with Leawo Blu-ray Ripper. Better ratings, lower price.
It is not a lower price though is it? You've just paid for a year and will have to do so again next year if you wish to continue. MakeMKV licence is for life.

The downtime every other month is just the price we pay for the privilege of using the software free. If ripping discs was mission critical to me I'd buy the software. Otherwise I just wait and continue to be grateful for the fact that Mike offers it in Beta for free.

Re: Why Do I Need a Beta Key to Rip DVDs?

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:18 pm
by glazunov2
When is the October beta key going to be posted?????

Re: Why Do I Need a Beta Key to Rip DVDs?

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:32 pm
by SamuriHL
When Mike gets around to it.