Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

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gleep52
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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by gleep52 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:50 pm

It just happened to be what was in my drive - but I didn't see it with Catching Fire last night either... I'll look again. Thanks!

mickolas
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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by mickolas » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:14 am

I took the same steps on a Netflix Blu-Ray rental that Wondercow shared with us earlier in this thread.
- Please see the very helpful screenshots that Wondercow shared with us!

Using AnyDVD I found that playlist 461 was a good playlist on the Netflix Blu-Ray rental. (see output below)
I opened the Netflix Blu-Ray rental with MakeMKV and kept clicking on all of the selections until I found the one with playlist 461.
The MakeMKV copy worked perfectly. All chapters in order.

Here is the output from AnyDVD on the Netflix Blu-Ray rental:
Summary for drive B: (AnyDVD HD 7.4.4.0, BDPHash.bin 14-02-26-B)
TSSTCORP DVDWBD SH-B123L SB01 0622
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Media is a Blu-ray disc.
Total size: 12085504 sectors (23604 MBytes)
Video Blu-ray label: CATCHING_FIRE
Media is AACS protected!
AACS MKB version 44
Removed AACS copy protection!
Note: automatic detection of region code not possible with this disc.
Java BD protection good playlists: 461
Blu-ray Java signatures fixed!
BD-Live deactivated!
Sony structural BD-J protection removed!

hdmkv
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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by hdmkv » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:05 pm

Latest beta of AnyDVD still shows playlist 778 as the right one for my disc (U.S. retail from Amazon).

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by jrwalker4 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:13 pm

nickbuol wrote: The one 000778.mpls has the following map (I believe someone above said that this wasn't right, but is what SlySoft, AnyDVD?, came back with):
511,512,515,507,504,513,514,503,502,505,506,510,508,509,501
hdmkv wrote: Latest beta of AnyDVD still shows playlist 778 as the right one for my disc (U.S. retail from Amazon).
Confirmed. Playlist 00778.mpls is the correct one for UPC 0-31398-18152-1 (e.g., BD+DVD+Digital HD Combo package purchased from Amazon) and as also recovered using VLC:

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gleep52
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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by gleep52 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:39 pm

That is so weird! My amazon disc was 00795 (as I posted previously, and showed that the segment maps in 00778 were incorrect). I watched the ripped movie and it appears to be correct as well... So Lion's gate is just messing with us? :)

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by joe42 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:01 pm

I imagine it would not be very difficult to have several versions of discs (i.e., different playlists that nevertheless play the same movie), even with the same UPC code. Makes it difficult for people to just post the correct number in the forums.

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by hdmkv » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:12 am

Bastid studios! We'll have our freeedom sooner or later! ;) :mrgreen:

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by trachyte11 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:01 am

I've dealt with the same multiple title issues with Catching Fire, Enders Game, and Escape Plan. End result is I've picked a title to rip in makemkv based off the majority agreement on these forums. The problem I've had is with the audio track. Any of these bluray discs that present as multiple titles in makemkv only give me Dolby Digital soundtracks to rip (AC3, 640kbps). But when I play the same disc in my bluray player, all the discs play in DTS-MA 5.1 or 7.1.

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by trachyte11 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:06 am

If it makes a difference, I'm running windows 8.1 pro with makemkv 1.8.9

PaulCB
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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by PaulCB » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:06 am

mickolas wrote:I took the same steps on a Netflix Blu-Ray rental that Wondercow shared with us earlier in this thread.
- Please see the very helpful screenshots that Wondercow shared with us!

Using AnyDVD I found that playlist 461 was a good playlist on the Netflix Blu-Ray rental. (see output below)
I opened the Netflix Blu-Ray rental with MakeMKV and kept clicking on all of the selections until I found the one with playlist 461.
The MakeMKV copy worked perfectly. All chapters in order.

Here is the output from AnyDVD on the Netflix Blu-Ray rental:
Pay for the content and if you want to continue to rip things off, do not post about your idiocy here as this software is for folks who want to put content they own on their computers/media servers.
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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by rollie715 » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:21 pm

00778.mpls worked for me.
It was the package that included a Blu ray, DVD and Digital copy. Afterwards my wife and I watched the whole movie from start to finish and didn't notice a problem. (And yes, we own the movie, and have it sitting in a box along with all the other movies we have copied to our computer.)

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by Morgolking » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:42 am

Would someone be kind enough to explain why the playlist or segment numbers matter?

I've ripped a couple discs that appeared to have duplicates of the movie and just chose one to rip thinking there was no difference in the resulting mkv.

I would really appreciate an explanation because I've been building my move library not caring which of the large gigabyte playlists to rip.

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by Wondercow » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:35 am

Morgolking wrote:Would someone be kind enough to explain why the playlist or segment numbers matter?

I've ripped a couple discs that appeared to have duplicates of the movie and just chose one to rip thinking there was no difference in the resulting mkv.

I would really appreciate an explanation because I've been building my move library not caring which of the large gigabyte playlists to rip.
Think of each segment as a single chapter of the film. Now, re-arrange their order so that chapter 3 plays after chapter 7 and chapter 8 plays after chapter 2; instead of a film that plays thus: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 you have one that plays like this: 1, 2, 8, 4, 5, 6, 7, 3, 9, 10.

Just like a music library playlist holds audio track in a certain order, a Blu-ray's playlists hold the segments in a particular order, but only one is the right order.

There are also movies like those those from Disney and Pixar where, in North America, there are three full-movie playlists. In this situation all three are the correct and complete movie, but the first has signs and text in English, the second has signs in Spanish, and the third, French. (By "signs" I mean anything written, like a newspaper, a billboard, a poster, et cetera. These text portions are localized for a given language and play automagically when one selects the language to use for the disc.)

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by Disposable9 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:39 pm

The UK version seems to be different again.

I bought the Blu Ray / DVD / Ultravoilet version of The Hunger Games Catching Fire.

I did a complete backup with MakeMKV and then went through and matched up the segments visually against the retail disc playing.

Code: Select all

Order   Segment Duration    Start Time
1       503     00:05:57    00:00:00
2       505     00:00:43    00:05:57
3       514     00:02:15    00:06:40
4       509     00:00:20    00:08:55
5       506     00:05:02    00:09:15
6       504     00:00:23    00:14:17
7       512     00:01:31    00:14:40
8       507     00:00:36    00:16:11
9       501     00:00:49    00:16:47
10      502     00:29:42    00:17:36
11      515     00:00:50    00:47:18
12      513     00:00:57    00:48:08
13      508     00:15:01    00:49:05
14      510     00:00:26    01:04:06
15      511     01:21:35    01:04:32
                02:26:07    02:26:07
This segment order only matched one playlist 00699, which was title 114 for me.

I gotta say obscuring which title is the movie is a pretty petty form of DRM. I waste a couple of hours figuring it out, so it hardly seems like it's really stopping anyone. Just makes it more unpleasant for genuine customers who want to rip these discs to there own media server.

Morgolking
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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by Morgolking » Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:25 pm

Thank you so much for the explanation!

So, if I can watch the movie in the right sequence, then I chose the right playlist right?

Am I right in assuming that there is no difference in audio or video quality between the playlists?

Wondercow wrote:
Morgolking wrote:Would someone be kind enough to explain why the playlist or segment numbers matter?

I've ripped a couple discs that appeared to have duplicates of the movie and just chose one to rip thinking there was no difference in the resulting mkv.

I would really appreciate an explanation because I've been building my move library not caring which of the large gigabyte playlists to rip.
Think of each segment as a single chapter of the film. Now, re-arrange their order so that chapter 3 plays after chapter 7 and chapter 8 plays after chapter 2; instead of a film that plays thus: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 you have one that plays like this: 1, 2, 8, 4, 5, 6, 7, 3, 9, 10.

Just like a music library playlist holds audio track in a certain order, a Blu-ray's playlists hold the segments in a particular order, but only one is the right order.

There are also movies like those those from Disney and Pixar where, in North America, there are three full-movie playlists. In this situation all three are the correct and complete movie, but the first has signs and text in English, the second has signs in Spanish, and the third, French. (By "signs" I mean anything written, like a newspaper, a billboard, a poster, et cetera. These text portions are localized for a given language and play automagically when one selects the language to use for the disc.)

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