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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:45 am
by sw5163
kazuma wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:22 am
what is a dual-track and dual-layer exactly? can someone describe in simple terms?
Dolby Vision is really complicated, you may want to do more research to learn how it actually works.
sw5163 wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:59 am
In human words:
BL(base layer): an HDR10 2160p YCbCr 4:2:0 10-bit video.
Dolby Vision fall back to this when not supported.

EL(enhancement layer): an HDR10 1080p YCbCr 4:2:0 10-bit video.
Supported device use BL and EL to mux a final 4:2:2 12-bit video.

RPU(reference processing unit): To indicate how filmmaker would like the video to be separately shown on 100nitSDR/600nit/1000nit/10000nit display. (despite the actual brightness record in BL)

There are basically 4 types of Dolby Vision video:
Profile 5(streaming): ICtCp 4:2:0 10-bit video + RPU.
It uses a more efficient color coding, but appear green and purple on non support device.

Profile 8.1: BL+RPU
Profile 8.4: Dolby Vision shot on iPhone, HLG BL+RPU

FEL(Full Enhancement Layer)
Profile 7 DT_DL FEL: BL in one video track, EL+RPU in another video track.
Profile 7 ST_DL FEL: BL+EL+RPU in one same video track.

MEL(Minimum Enhancement Layer)
Profile 7 MEL: BL+RPU same as 8.1 just in bluray container.

Please don't hesitate to point out my mistake!

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:02 pm
by MastaG
I still have one of these Oppo bluray player clones which is basically the same thing but without the disc-reader.
Perhaps somebody can recommend some good (FEL) movies where the DV really stands out and make a difference?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:45 pm
by jayper
MastaG wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:02 pm
I still have one of these Oppo bluray player clones which is basically the same thing but without the disc-reader.
Perhaps somebody can recommend some good (FEL) movies where the DV really stands out and make a difference?
This thread has a lot of useful information and catalogs 99% of the discs released with Dolby Vision: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:28 pm
by kazuma
MastaG wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:02 pm
I still have one of these Oppo bluray player clones which is basically the same thing but without the disc-reader.
Perhaps somebody can recommend some good (FEL) movies where the DV really stands out and make a difference?
I don't now of chinoppo have a decent FEL support with mp4/ts movies. Nobody tested so far i think?

DV-MKV doesn't work on it.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:44 pm
by jayper
kazuma wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:28 pm
MastaG wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:02 pm
I still have one of these Oppo bluray player clones which is basically the same thing but without the disc-reader.
Perhaps somebody can recommend some good (FEL) movies where the DV really stands out and make a difference?
I don't now of chinoppo have a decent FEL support with mp4/ts movies. Nobody tested so far i think?

DV-MKV doesn't work on it.
There's a link in RESET_9999's signature that breaks down DV support across several devices. Including the Oppo.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:00 am
by DylanValenti
Hey RESET, is there a way to generate a P7 RPU with an xml file from resolve. Keeps defaulting to P8.1

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:33 pm
by RESET_9999
DylanValenti wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:00 am
Hey RESET, is there a way to generate a P7 RPU with an xml file from resolve. Keeps defaulting to P8.1
Not directly but if you have the original P7 RPU and you used the original scene cuts, you can copy the metadata levels from your P8 RPU with workflow 2-6.
I did it a couple of times for some static P7 movies like Avatar.
Example: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12CPNlw ... drive_link

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:33 am
by DylanValenti
Are you able to transfer levels from a cmv4.0 rpu to a cmv2.9 rpu? Or is that not possible yet?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:24 pm
by RESET_9999
You can only copy levels that already exist in the original RPU. So you cannot add a cmv4.0 bloc to a cmv2.9 rpu.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
by kazuma
what is cmv4.0 and cmv2.9 exactly?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:10 pm
by anta777
Good evening, RESET.
where does the release The Point Break 2015 DV-8 belong?
Red or green or yellow ?

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:02 am
by sw5163
kazuma wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:26 am
what is cmv4.0 and cmv2.9 exactly?
https://professionalsupport.dolby.com/s ... uage=en_US
DV P5 are getting harder and harder to find on BT sites these days. :(

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:47 am
by morbius
so before buying a new TV, is there a need to check for CMv4 support? I've not seen a spec sheet that goes to that level of detail.

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:55 am
by RESET_9999
anta777 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:10 pm
Good evening, RESET.
where does the release The Point Break 2015 DV-8 belong?
Red or green or yellow ?
both the 1991 and 2015 have retail FEL DV from the bluray disc.
morbius wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:47 am
so before buying a new TV, is there a need to check for CMv4 support? I've not seen a spec sheet that goes to that level of detail.
They don't make new TVs with older cmv2.9 chip anymore. So any TV after 2019 is most likely cmv4.0

Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:41 pm
by anta777
Dear RESET.
Point Break (2015) have brightness what get expanded via FEL?