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Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:45 pm
by ripem
d3rd3vil wrote: ↑Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:36 pm
VAMET wrote:Dear Friends
In both cases you will have Dolby Vision working without any problems.
Sounds really good. Unfortunately I also believe this just "keeps" the dual layer Dolby Vision information which we cant use no matter what. We really really need dual to single layer conversion but that wont happen with official support. No chance....
That burning method is still sth. I would look into. Unfortunately no cheaper DV disc player can handle burned discs above 66gb. Any movie under 66gb might work ofc.
Edit: Just tried it, same shit. The converter might be the key, but it only keeps/recognizes the HDR10, not the DV
i used it after i used makemkv saved full disk then made iso..used DVDFab 10 it takes the iso and recopyed it into a smaller iso that fits on a dl BD disk and it did play Dolby vision on my sony uhd700
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:24 pm
by d3rd3vil
Yeah well thats the question. What happens to a 66gb+ movie that gets cut into a smaller 50gb version? Is the quality still the same with DV? I doubt it.
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:03 am
by EPiPH0N3
d3rd3vil wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:24 pm
Yeah well thats the question. What happens to a 66gb+ movie that gets cut into a smaller 50gb version? Is the quality still the same with DV? I doubt it.
No he's talking about remuxing, I think. I've used DVDFab 10 to remux Pacific Rim 2 while keeping full DV. It works and it's currently the only app that can remux dual layer DV. PR2 went from full disc @90GB to DV remux @71GB. Still too big for this particular 66GB limit which is strange but UHD burning specs haven't been completed yet. Someone will figure out the Dual layer DV to single layer DV it will just take time. This is why I spent the money upfront to make sure every piece of HW I did for this upgrade had working DV before purchase. Was a wise move. Expensive, but wise.
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:21 pm
by d3rd3vil
Why wise I am not sure we will ever see dual to single layer conversion. So far nothing absolutely nothing no hints absolutely nothing and Dolby will probably NEVER sell licences to multimediaplayers or PowerDVD for PC or anything. Therefore I doubt we will see it, ever.
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:22 pm
by abs_fc
Hi everyone, I've got a few UHD discs now but I'm looking to buy the Asus BW16D1H and an Oppo 203 player. My understanding is that I will be able to make UHD rips with Dolby Vision using DVDfab. Will I be able to play these on the Oppo (over the network) even on rips that contain Cinavia?
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:41 pm
by st4evr
abs_fc wrote: ↑Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:22 pm
Hi everyone, I've got a few UHD discs now but I'm looking to buy the Asus BW16D1H and an Oppo 203 player. My understanding is that I will be able to make UHD rips with Dolby Vision using DVDfab. Will I be able to play these on the Oppo (over the network) even on rips that contain Cinavia?
If you haven’t noticed, this is the MAKEMKV software support forum. NOT the DVDFab software support forum. DVDFab has their own site/support forum. May be more helpful to you if you ask your question there.
See:
https://www.google.com/search?q=dvdfab+ ... e&ie=UTF-8
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:02 pm
by d3rd3vil
We NEED a way to play Dolby Vision shit IMMEDIATELY BADLY NOW
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:31 pm
by SamuriHL
Well, we're not getting one. It's a closed, proprietary format and no way to store it in MKV. So, unless you've got a magic wand, the only way is with a licensed player and a disc.
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:30 pm
by d3rd3vil
Then someone has to open it and I mean wide open
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:23 pm
by Woodstock
I remember a time when the stories told by movies were compelling enough that our imaginations filled in the missing details.
Nowadays, only a few people can tell compelling stories, and many people either don't know how to use their imaginations, or are too bored with the story to look past the minor imperfections.
(Says the guy who sat in the front row to watch Apocalypse Now in its theatrical release...)
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:31 am
by Low Winter Sun
Dolby might be lessening their restrictions on requiring specific hardware to decode their proprietary HDR. This should pave the way for media players based on the Nvidia Shield Tv, Apple Tv, and others to merge the video tracks into the proper format for presentation.
This article is dated Feb 2017, so it's old news by now, but it's about all we've got to go on.
https://www.cepro.com/article/dolby_vis ... re_upgrade
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:27 pm
by d3rd3vil
I am done with this shit I caved in. Bought an Oppo! Goodbye
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:51 am
by suarsg
SamuriHL wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:31 pm
It's a closed, proprietary format and no way to store it in MKV.
Today I saw a "release" of a movie that was MKV and had 2 video streams. I assume the second is the Dolby Vision layer.
MediaInfo:
Code: Select all
Video #1
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name : HDR10
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 1 h 52 min
Bit rate : 53.5 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.269
Stream size : 41.9 GiB (79%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 3903 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 1076 cd/m2
Video #2
ID : 2
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name : HDR10
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 1 h 52 min
Bit rate : 2 085 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.042
Stream size : 1.63 GiB (3%)
Default : No
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Is it now possible for MKV to have the DV-layer? I can't seem to find any information on the Internet regarding this, I'm no expert though. I have the file and when selecting the second video track the video just stays black in MPC-HC with madVR, just like with the UHD-BD ts-files.
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:18 pm
by st4evr
suarsg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:51 am
SamuriHL wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:31 pm
It's a closed, proprietary format and no way to store it in MKV.
Today I saw a "release" of a movie that was MKV and had 2 video streams. I assume the second is the Dolby Vision layer.
MediaInfo:
Code: Select all
Video #1
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name : HDR10
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 1 h 52 min
Bit rate : 53.5 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.269
Stream size : 41.9 GiB (79%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 3903 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 1076 cd/m2
Video #2
ID : 2
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name : HDR10
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 1 h 52 min
Bit rate : 2 085 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.042
Stream size : 1.63 GiB (3%)
Default : No
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Is it now possible for MKV to have the DV-layer? I can't seem to find any information on the Internet regarding this, I'm no expert though. I have the file and when selecting the second video track the video just stays black in MPC-HC with madVR, just like with the UHD-BD ts-files.
No. That is the HDR10 metadata. It’s clearly telling you what type of metadata it's using by labeling it “Commercial name : HDR10”. It can’t get any clearer than that.
Attempting to “play” that stream will get you nowhere. It’s not an actual standalone video stream.
No info? Google is your friend:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C9BK ... 30j0i22i30.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C9BK ... M2uqs3g1xU
Re: WANTED: Results of UHD Rips with Dolby Vision
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:11 am
by SamuriHL
Yup, HDR10 not Dolby Vision. Things are about to get a bit more fun with the introduction of HDR10+. That should be an open format with dynamic metadata similar to DV. No idea if it'll be possible to shove that into an MKV container. The first titles with HDR10+ should be hitting the streets in the next few weeks. Let the games begin! LOL