Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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aboulfad
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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DMDreview wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:44 pm
...Now understood. this very good site with edid decoder https://hverkuil.home.xs4all.nl/edid-de ... ecode.html
That's also helpful but not what I am asking about. I was asking how did you get EDID info from your TV. I thought wrongly that signal info showed it in your video. RESET_9999 explained few pages ago & I wondered if you were using the raspberry pi/Pgenerator. We can for now "forget about it" : )

PS: That moninfo tool didn't show anything useful (EDID) when I connected my Bootcamp/Mac to my LGTV via HDMI.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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aboulfad wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:53 pm
DMDreview wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:44 pm
...Now understood. this very good site with edid decoder https://hverkuil.home.xs4all.nl/edid-de ... ecode.html
That's also helpful but not what I am asking about. I was asking how did you get EDID info from your TV. I thought wrongly that signal info showed it in your video. RESET_9999 explained few pages ago & I wondered if you were using the raspberry pi/Pgenerator. We can for now "forget about it" : )

PS: That moninfo tool didn't show anything useful (EDID) when I connected my Bootcamp/Mac to my LGTV via HDMI.
device from hdfury can read ad save edid from tv
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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aboulfad wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:53 pm

PS: That moninfo tool didn't show anything useful (EDID) when I connected my Bootcamp/Mac to my LGTV via HDMI.
Try to download your edid with CRU:
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thre ... tility-CRU
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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:24 pm
Try to download your edid with CRU:
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thre ... tility-CRU
That's so funny, I just finished doing that but didn't find anything useful related to DV or HDR... I think it seems CRU depends on the GPU on the laptop (MacBook Pro 2018 i7, Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655) or the USB-C to HDMI Anker adapter , but unsure ! Grrr can't attach .txt ... or is it a quota issue.

Here's a LINK to that text file decoded from the site that @DMDreview shared.
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aboulfad wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:29 pm
RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:24 pm
Try to download your edid with CRU:
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thre ... tility-CRU
That's so funny, I just finished doing that but didn't find anything useful related to DV or HDR... I think it seems CRU depends on the GPU on the laptop (MacBook Pro 2018 i7, Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655) or the USB-C to HDMI Anker adapter , but unsure ! Grrr can't attach .txt ... or is it a quota issue.

Here's a LINK to that text file decoded from the site that @DMDreview shared.
What is the size of the original EDID file, it feels like it is without the second 128 bytes. the size of the full EDID is 256 bytes.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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DMDreview wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:04 pm
What is the size of the original EDID file, it feels like it is without the second 128 bytes. the size of the full EDID is 256 bytes.
That is what I exported from CRU & decoded by that site, idk what you mean by original file unless the .bin file which is also 128bytes.
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aboulfad wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:17 pm
DMDreview wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:04 pm
What is the size of the original EDID file, it feels like it is without the second 128 bytes. the size of the full EDID is 256 bytes.
That is what I exported from CRU & decoded by that site, idk what you mean by original file unless the .bin file which is also 128bytes.
full edid BIN =256 bytes. You need read full EDID with extended data
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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yes, I just tested with my C2 and if the display connected to the PC is not a certified DV monitor, the DV bloc is missing from CRU edid. A TV is not a certified DV monitor.
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^^^ Understood, though CRU has these following limitations & my MBP 2018 has most likely a dum & unsupported GPU. Oh RESET just discovered the mystery :-D
Extension blocks:
GPU-specific limtations:
CRU can read extension blocks from displays connected to AMD and NVIDIA GPUs.
CRU can't read extension blocks with Intel GPUs or switchable graphics.
Older drivers or GPUs may only support up to 3 extension blocks.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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aboulfad wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:29 pm
^^^ Understood, though CRU has these following limitations & my MBP 2018 has most likely a dum & unsupported GPU. Oh RESET just discovered the mystery :-D
No need to worry about your TV edid. LG OLED65E7P is about ~700nits.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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susanstone2022 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:32 am
No need to worry about your TV edid. LG OLED65E7P is about ~700nits.
Thank you, I knew that from other users DV calibration files, was just curious how to retrieve EDID without vertex HW.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:20 pm
speeddemon wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:40 am
Would this be able to play MKVs on my C9 that are Profile 7 FEL?
Yes, I guess the ST P7 MKV would work on the C9 kodi app. Let us know if you try.
I'll test this week and let you know. It would be amazing if it also can do lossless audio (I doubt it though based on others' experiences so far).
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:24 pm
Try to download your edid with CRU...
I really feel silly :oops: , I had my rpi4 connected to my LGTV all the time & w a super simple command tvservice -d, you can dump EDID (256b) & decode it with edid-decode :D (on rpi5/bookworm its different)

The decoded file has interesting data but surprised by the last video block, which brings me to my Q: in the past week's discussion there was reference to a "1000nits or 2000nits ... edid", is this entry below related to what you were referring to ? Obviously this TV can't be that low so odd.
Target Max Luminance: 350 cd/m^2
Target Min Luminance: 0.00099200 cd/m^2
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damn that's very low indeed and looks odd. If its really the 2017 LG tv edid, DV must look VERY dark compared to HDR10 on this TV.
discussion there was reference to a "1000nits or 2000nits ... edid", is this entry below related to what you were referring to ?
I've tested as low as 374nits:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ed65Aq5K0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1222148710
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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comorla45 wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:10 pm
Hello, I stumbled upon issue, maybe someone here might be able to help me.

I want to convert 4K DV+HDR10 MKV into lower bitrate MP4 to play DV on my LG Plex.

Normally, when I only want to change the container from MKV to MP4 I just use

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ffmpeg.exe -i "source.mkv" -map 0 -c copy -c:s mov_text -strict unofficial "output.mp4" 
and all is nice and dandy. It triggers DV on my LG, but preservers the HDR10 metadata also, so all is OKay.

When I want to convert video stream I use:

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ffmpeg.exe -i "source.mkv" -map 0 -c copy -c:0 hevc_nvenc -cq 32 -preset p5 -c:s mov_text -strict unofficial "output.mp4" 
and it also copy all DV/HDR metadata, it even triggers Dolby Vision playback on TV (DV logo appears in the top right) but brightness is like in SD material. MediaInfoGUI claims all is okay. I lose HDR10+ but I do not care for that.

First is original MKV file:
Image
converted MP4:
Image

Any ideas whit it triggers DV but plays in low brightness?
I'm just curious, why do you want to convert to lower bit-rate?
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