Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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DaMacFunkin
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by DaMacFunkin »

SamuriHL wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:21 pm
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:33 pm
mike admin wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:41 am
Just in case - MakeMKV 1.15.1 preserves DV in MKV - please see https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 12&t=21937
I was also curious why some were using MakeMKV to use it later with TS muxes for Atmos tracks. AFAIK, MKV should be able to preserve the ATMOS/DTS-X with lossless audio and DV at this point, correct?
It can but nothing will currently play the MKV's. So we're remuxing them with TSMuxer to TS so that we can play them on other devices like the SHIELD Pro 2019 in Plex. At least, that's what I'm doing.
In MKV is it possible to retain ac3 core in Atmos for greater compatabillity?
SamuriHL
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by SamuriHL »

DaMacFunkin wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:18 pm

In MKV is it possible to retain ac3 core in Atmos for greater compatabillity?
Mike said that's already being done. It's creating an interleaved thd/ac3 track in the MKV. It's just that at the moment tsmuxer doesn't recognize it when we try to remux, but, in the MKV, it's there.
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 »

Does anyone watch dolby vision remuxes on oled and notice some kind of distortion line running continously across the screen during dark scenes? It’s almost like this: https://youtu.be/eJmicmxGdkM (go to 0:29 mark) but way darker and noticeable in a pitch dark room. Yesterday I watched 1917 and this was very evident during dark scenes. I remember seeing the same issue in some other films as well. Is it caused by the remux, the oled or the film itself?
Billycar11
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Billycar11 »

deadchip12 wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:22 pm
Does anyone watch dolby vision remuxes on oled and notice some kind of distortion line running continously across the screen during dark scenes? It’s almost like this: https://youtu.be/eJmicmxGdkM (go to 0:29 mark) but way darker and noticeable in a pitch dark room. Yesterday I watched 1917 and this was very evident during dark scenes. I remember seeing the same issue in some other films as well. Is it caused by the remux, the oled or the film itself?
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by mike admin »

SamuriHL wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:43 pm
Mike said that's already being done. It's creating an interleaved thd/ac3 track in the MKV. It's just that at the moment tsmuxer doesn't recognize it when we try to remux, but, in the MKV, it's there.
No, I was wrong, or rather I didn't mean it that way. If you extract both TrueHD plus eac3 core, you get two separate tracks in MKV. If TrueHD only - then you get TrueHD only (with Atmos metadata if it was there).
If you want to retain eac3 core, then you have to select it.

What I'm saying, that there is no need for tsmuxer to require eac3 core to begin with. In the worst case, if a 100% compatibility is required, one could always "create" eac3 core from TrueHD, with ffmpeg or any other tool. That core will not have Atmos metadata, but it is discarded by decoder anyway.

There is fundamental differecnce between DTS-HD and TrueHD.
In DTS, the HD layer is extension, you need to have core+hd extension to decode audio.
TrueHD is self-contained codec, eac3 is present on blu-ray only as a fallback. You can mux in a silent eac3 track or leave it empty -- providing you have setup for TrueHD, the player would discard eac3 stream and use TrueHD part only.

So, to preserve the full compatibility one just have to check both streams - truehd and eac3. As for re-encoding to m2ts, MakeMKV uses a tag called a "source id" (now picked up by mediainfo and other software). If two tracks in MKV file have the same source id, then it means that these tracks come from the same source track and have the same content in different encoding. There is nothing that prevents tsmuxer (or any other tool) to recognize two separate tracks this way and join them together. This is what I meant by tsmuxer limitation.
SamuriHL
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by SamuriHL »

mike admin wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:30 pm
SamuriHL wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:43 pm
Mike said that's already being done. It's creating an interleaved thd/ac3 track in the MKV. It's just that at the moment tsmuxer doesn't recognize it when we try to remux, but, in the MKV, it's there.
No, I was wrong, or rather I didn't mean it that way. If you extract both TrueHD plus eac3 core, you get two separate tracks in MKV. If TrueHD only - then you get TrueHD only (with Atmos metadata if it was there).
If you want to retain eac3 core, then you have to select it.

What I'm saying, that there is no need for tsmuxer to require eac3 core to begin with. In the worst case, if a 100% compatibility is required, one could always "create" eac3 core from TrueHD, with ffmpeg or any other tool. That core will not have Atmos metadata, but it is discarded by decoder anyway.

There is fundamental differecnce between DTS-HD and TrueHD.
In DTS, the HD layer is extension, you need to have core+hd extension to decode audio.
TrueHD is self-contained codec, eac3 is present on blu-ray only as a fallback. You can mux in a silent eac3 track or leave it empty -- providing you have setup for TrueHD, the player would discard eac3 stream and use TrueHD part only.

So, to preserve the full compatibility one just have to check both streams - truehd and eac3. As for re-encoding to m2ts, MakeMKV uses a tag called a "source id" (now picked up by mediainfo and other software). If two tracks in MKV file have the same source id, then it means that these tracks come from the same source track and have the same content in different encoding. There is nothing that prevents tsmuxer (or any other tool) to recognize two separate tracks this way and join them together. This is what I meant by tsmuxer limitation.
Ah, I got it now. Thanks for the detailed explanation. In my case I've just been creating a THD+AC3 track from the TrueHD track in the MKV and then adding that track into TSMuxer for output to TS. This has worked on every title I've tried so far which is a fair amount. But yes, in the beginning I was extracting the core AC3 as a separate track but I stopped doing that because it wasn't getting picked up anyway. Now I understand you're saying that the extra AC3 track COULD be picked up and interleaved for TS but isn't. That makes sense.
deadchip12
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 »

Billycar11 wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:01 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:22 pm
Does anyone watch dolby vision remuxes on oled and notice some kind of distortion line running continously across the screen during dark scenes? It’s almost like this: https://youtu.be/eJmicmxGdkM (go to 0:29 mark) but way darker and noticeable in a pitch dark room. Yesterday I watched 1917 and this was very evident during dark scenes. I remember seeing the same issue in some other films as well. Is it caused by the remux, the oled or the film itself?
The OLED https://www.rtings.com/tv/discussions/E ... ode-oddity
Sorry but this is not the issue I’m talking about
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Hanto »

Hanto wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:26 pm
Hello my friends.

Excuse my poor English, I'm French

I have read all 144 pages and still have same problem : my TV play well .mp4 DV but not my .ts of the same source.

Source is Alita DV teaser demo.mp4 and my TV don't play it.
So, I've demuxed BL.hevc and EL.hevc then remuxed in .mp4 forced DV Profile 4 with mp4muxer and this one play fine on my tv. (EL : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, EL+RPU, SDR compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible)

I also tried with yusescope V3 rev1 tool then remuxed in .mp4 forced DV Profile 4 with mp4muxer and this one play fine too. (Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, SDR compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible)
Works fine with forced DV Profile 5 too, but not in yusescope V3 rev1 tool -mode 2 : Black screen

But file .ts made with tsmuxer with the same BL and EL don't work on my TV. (Video format not supported)
I don't understand. I've tried lot of tsmuxer version (edited,04.06 fix, patched, nightly...)
I don't understand because I've a lot of LG DV demo .ts (dvhe.04.06 BL+EL+RPU) that work on my TV.
For .mp4 files only DV Profile 4 and 5 can work, not 7 or 8. Can't try Profile 6 don't have found the good mp4muxer for.
And for .ts files made with tsmuxer, none of them work, and I can't have dvhe 04.06 with dual layer, only 07.05.

If anyone know what's the problem and help please ?
Thank you a lot guys


Source Dual Layer .mp4 DV Profile 7 : doesn't work

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Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57

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Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 443 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2
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Vidéo #2
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Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.043
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Default                                  : Non
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Date de marquage                         : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57
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Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC

Audio
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Mode de compression                      : Avec perte
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Langue                                   : Français
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Default                                  : Non
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2019-07-17 08:39:57

Dual Layer MP4 Forced DV Profile 4 with mp4muxer : Works

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Nom complet                              : E:\DLP4.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Profil du format                         : Base Media / Version 2
Identifiant du codec                     : mp42 (mp42/dby1/isom)
Taille du fichier                        : 274 Mio
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit global moyen                       : 57,3 Mb/s
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2020-04-16 12:42:04
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2020-04-16 12:42:04

Vidéo #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : hev1
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit                                    : 55,2 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.277
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Default                                  : Oui
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Date de marquage                         : UTC 2020-04-16 12:42:04
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Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 443 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Vidéo #2
ID                                       : 2
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Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
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Identifiant du codec                     : hev1
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit                                    : 2 120 kb/s
Largeur                                  : 1 920 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 1 080 pixels
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Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.043
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Default                                  : Non
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Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC

Single Layer MP4 Forced DV Profile 4 with yusescope V3 rev1 tool mp4muxer : Works and DV Profile 5 works too.

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Nom complet                              : E:\P4.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Profil du format                         : Base Media / Version 2
Identifiant du codec                     : mp42 (mp42/dby1/isom)
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Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit global moyen                       : 57,3 Mb/s
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2020-04-16 08:25:14
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2020-04-16 08:25:14

Vidéo
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HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, SDR compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : hev1
Identifiant du codec/Info                : High Efficiency Video Coding
Durée                                    : 40s 82 ms
Débit                                    : 57,3 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.288
Taille du flux                           : 274 Mio (100%)
Default                                  : Oui
Alternate group                          : 1
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2020-04-16 08:25:14
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2020-04-16 08:25:14
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 443 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC+dvcC+hvcE

Single Layer .ts Profile 4 (dvhe 04 06) : Doesn't work

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ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
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Vidéo
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Format                                   : HEVC
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Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
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Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
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Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.280
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Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 443 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

Dual layer DV Profile 7 : Doesn't work, can't have DV Profile 4

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ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Nom complet                              : E:\P4DL.ts
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Vidéo #1
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Format                                   : HEVC
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HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Identifiant du codec                     : 36
Durée                                    : 40s 40 ms
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 443 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 47 cd/m2

Vidéo #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
ID de menu                               : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5.1@High
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Identifiant du codec                     : 36
Durée                                    : 40s 40 ms
Largeur                                  : 1 920 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 1 080 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.2020
Caractéristiques du transfert            : PQ
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2

LG DV demo .ts Profile 4 : Works

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ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Nom complet                              : E:\LG Dolby Trailer 4K Demo.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
Taille du fichier                        : 308 Mio
Durée                                    : 1 min 20s
Type de débit global                     : Constant
Débit global moyen                       : 31,9 Mb/s

Vidéo
ID                                       : 33 (0x21)
ID de menu                               : 2 (0x2)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format                         : Main 10@L5@Main
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU
Identifiant du codec                     : 36
Durée                                    : 1 min 19s
Débit                                    : 29,6 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Images par seconde                       : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.149
Taille du flux                           : 282 Mio (92%)

Audio
ID                                       : 35 (0x23)
ID de menu                               : 2 (0x2)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
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Identifiant du codec                     : 135
Durée                                    : 1 min 20s
Type de débit                            : Constant
Débit                                    : 768 kb/s
Canaux                                   : 6 canaux
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Echantillonnage                          : 48,0 kHz
Images par seconde                       : 31,250 Im/s (1536 SPF)
Mode de compression                      : Avec perte
Délai par rapport Vidéo                  : -948 ms
Taille du flux                           : 7,41 Mio (2%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

I think I've found the problem but impossible to resolve.
I think the problem is TSMUXER, I've tried a lot of version and same problem evrytime :

This file .ts source works well on my TV :
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ID : 1 (0x1)
Nom complet : E:\LG Dolby Trailer 4K Demo.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
Taille du fichier : 308 Mio
Durée : 1 min 20s
Type de débit global : Constant
Débit global moyen : 31,9 Mb/s

Vidéo
ID : 33 (0x21)
ID de menu : 2 (0x2)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Profil du format : Main 10@L5@Main
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU
Identifiant du codec : 36
Durée : 1 min 19s
Débit : 29,6 Mb/s
Largeur : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran : 16/9
Images par seconde : 23,976 (24000/1001) Im/s
Espace de couleurs : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance : 4:2:0
Profondeur des couleurs : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Image) : 0.149
Taille du flux : 282 Mio (92%)

Audio
ID : 35 (0x23)
ID de menu : 2 (0x2)
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3
Nom commercial : Dolby Digital Plus
Identifiant du codec : 135
Durée : 1 min 20s
Type de débit : Constant
Débit : 768 kb/s
Canaux : 6 canaux
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Echantillonnage : 48,0 kHz
Images par seconde : 31,250 Im/s (1536 SPF)
Mode de compression : Avec perte
Délai par rapport Vidéo : -948 ms
Taille du flux : 7,41 Mio (2%)
Service kind : Complete Main
But when I remux this same file on TSMUXER juste for test, result doesn't work anymore.
New .ts file is smaller and many information are lost :
Général
ID : 1 (0x1)
Nom complet : E:\LG Dolby Trailer 4K Demo2.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
Taille du fichier : 247 Mio
Durée : 1 min 20s
Type de débit global : Variable
Débit global moyen : 25,6 Mb/s
Débit global maximum : 35,5 Mb/s

Vidéo
ID : 4117 (0x1015)
ID de menu : 1 (0x1)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU
Identifiant du codec : 36
Durée : 1 min 19s
Débit : 23,6 Mb/s
Taille du flux : 224 Mio (91%)

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
ID de menu : 1 (0x1)
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3
Nom commercial : Dolby Digital Plus
Identifiant du codec : 135
Durée : 1 min 20s
Type de débit : Constant
Débit : 768 kb/s
Canaux : 6 canaux
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Echantillonnage : 48,0 kHz
Images par seconde : 31,250 Im/s (1536 SPF)
Mode de compression : Avec perte
Taille du flux : 7,41 Mio (3%)
Service kind : Complete Main
I think is the same problem when I try to convert .mp4 files to .ts with tsmuxer.

If you know what is the problem and if somebody can help me please it would be most appreciate.
Thank you a lot
Hanto
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Hanto »

I think all my .ts doesn't work because [ HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086 ] or [ Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible ] on hevc file.
I've tried lot of DV profile fot .ts file but nothing works :

- dvhe.04.06 BL+EL+RPU
- dvhe.05.06 BL+RPU
- dvhe.06.06 BL+EL+RPU
- dvhe.08.06 BL+EL+RPU

- dvhe.04.06 EL+RPU
- dvhe.06.06 EL+RPU
- dvhe.07.05 EL+RPU
- dvhe.07.06 EL+RPU
- dvhe.08.03 BL+RPU

I don't understand because lot of .mp4 on DV Profile 4, 5 or 6 works well on my TV, even in double track double layer with HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086.
Mp4 DV profile 7 doesn't works and DV Profile 8 only in HDR not DV.

Do you know a way to remove [ HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086 ] or [ Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible ] on .ts file ?
I will go crazy lol
kazuma
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by kazuma »

a noob question:

what is the fastest/easiest way to convert a dts-hd sound file to ac3? which program needed?
Grencola
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Grencola »

kazuma wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:30 pm
a noob question:

what is the fastest/easiest way to convert a dts-hd sound file to ac3? which program needed?
download eac3to: https://www.videohelp.com/download/eac3to334.zip

extract it to your dts folder

run a cmd prompt from there

type:

Code: Select all

eac3to.exe input.dts output.ac3 -libav
tr000
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by tr000 »

Grencola wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:30 am
kazuma wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:30 pm
a noob question:

what is the fastest/easiest way to convert a dts-hd sound file to ac3? which program needed?
download eac3to: https://www.videohelp.com/download/eac3to334.zip

extract it to your dts folder

run a cmd prompt from there

type:

Code: Select all

eac3to.exe input.dts output.ac3 -libav
Also a GUI available for those scared of cmd https://www.videohelp.com/software/eac3to
deadchip12
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 »

Disney+ is not available in my country so I download this remux to watch The Mandalorian: https://rarbgway.org/torrent/rw213am. This looks like dolby vision single layer mp4? I have had hard time trying to get this to play on my oled c9. I put the film files in an external hdd and connected it to the c9 via usb. At first, the files seemed to play ok, but once I skipped to another point in the film it refused to play and showed message: "the file can't be recognized". Now that message is shown everytime I try to open the files so I can't even play the film anymore. Any idea? The TV did recognize the files at first so it's really weird that it does not recognize the files now anymore. The files are not corrupted btw, I tested them on my computer and they play fine, only without dolby vision.
Grencola
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Grencola »

deadchip12 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:15 am
Disney+ is not available in my country so I download this remux to watch The Mandalorian: https://rarbgway.org/torrent/rw213am. This looks like dolby vision single layer mp4? I have had hard time trying to get this to play on my oled c9. I put the film files in an external hdd and connected it to the c9 via usb. At first, the files seemed to play ok, but once I skipped to another point in the film it refused to play and showed message: "the file can't be recognized". Now that message is shown everytime I try to open the files so I can't even play the film anymore. Any idea? The TV did recognize the files at first so it's really weird that it does not recognize the files now anymore. The files are not corrupted btw, I tested them on my computer and they play fine, only without dolby vision.
not sure in your situation, sounds like a tv issue-maybe because of the prof 5.06? people say it plays great on the shield and atv4 (and probably fire tv-I'll test tonight). also-not to hijack your post or anything - but seeing this, I feel like compressed x265's could still work in dolby vision (read a while back that x265 now supported dv), and those saying nope it has to be the full lossless video track were misinformed. I should have tested it myself but I just went along believing it. the 30-ish GB x265's you get when you compress a full disc (and leave audio alone) look fantastic still and save you a ton of space! I might do up a few and try to keep dv and compare some before/after screens to see if dv color profile is properly retained etc.
deadchip12
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by deadchip12 »

Grencola wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:14 pm
deadchip12 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:15 am
Disney+ is not available in my country so I download this remux to watch The Mandalorian: https://rarbgway.org/torrent/rw213am. This looks like dolby vision single layer mp4? I have had hard time trying to get this to play on my oled c9. I put the film files in an external hdd and connected it to the c9 via usb. At first, the files seemed to play ok, but once I skipped to another point in the film it refused to play and showed message: "the file can't be recognized". Now that message is shown everytime I try to open the files so I can't even play the film anymore. Any idea? The TV did recognize the files at first so it's really weird that it does not recognize the files now anymore. The files are not corrupted btw, I tested them on my computer and they play fine, only without dolby vision.
not sure in your situation, sounds like a tv issue-maybe because of the prof 5.06? people say it plays great on the shield and atv4 (and probably fire tv-I'll test tonight). also-not to hijack your post or anything - but seeing this, I feel like compressed x265's could still work in dolby vision (read a while back that x265 now supported dv), and those saying nope it has to be the full lossless video track were misinformed. I should have tested it myself but I just went along believing it. the 30-ish GB x265's you get when you compress a full disc (and leave audio alone) look fantastic still and save you a ton of space! I might do up a few and try to keep dv and compare some before/after screens to see if dv color profile is properly retained etc.
Sorry what do you mean by prof 5.06?
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