Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

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DaMacFunkin
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

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Why do people mess about with MX player?
darrrkmanxxx
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by darrrkmanxxx »

Guys, can't we just take the .m2ts file from STREAM folder and do all with tsmusxer? If so, which version I should use?
Shasarak
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

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Okay, I'm getting precisely nowhere with this at the moment. Can someone give me a step-by-step guide? I'm starting from an unencrypted folder back-up of the disc. What's the simplest route?

I'm using the version of TSMuxer recommended earlier in the thread, but when I load the MKV into it, it can't see the secondary video track. If I mux using video tracks and audio from the original playlist then I get DV output but it plays for about one frame and then locks up. (I'm using an Oppo 203 for playback).
Last edited by Shasarak on Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:25 am, edited 1 time in total.
mulucy
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

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SamuriHL wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:54 pm
For those that are looking to make this work in the easiest way possible:

1) Rip to MKV with MakeMKV
2) eac3to titlename.mkv 2: titlename.thd+ac3
Note: titlename should be replaced with the actual name of the MKV
3) Add the MKV and the thd+ac3 track to TSMuxer
4) Remux to TS

I've done this to a few of them. Currently watching Ready Player One on my SHIELD Pro 2019 in Plex as we speak. This is fantastic.
Thanks for the steps. What DV profile do you get when you did these steps using MKV? Another question, why TSMuxer need MKV step? I thought DV and Atmos was possible without involving MakeMKV
mulucy
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

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darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:11 am
Guys, can't we just take the .m2ts file from STREAM folder and do all with tsmusxer? If so, which version I should use?
I also don't understand why we need to involve the MakeMKV if we are not going to use the MKV container as a final file. I thought TSMuxer could do all of the above ( DV + HD Audio with Atmos/DTS:X )
rosavanwinkle
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

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shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:42 pm
rosavanwinkle wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:20 pm
So i just converted a movie using makemkv and then tsmuxer
tried playing it in mxplayer pro i get hdr....
Plex gives me dolby vision. do i have to change some settings?
I seriously am starting to trip out on where i'm wrong.
Discord: Rosa Van Winkle#2593 if anyone wants to guide me through this.

Code: Select all

General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : \\SHIELD\internal\Movies\Yip Man 4.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 46.5 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 45 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 63.3 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate                                 : 59.5 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 24.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.299
Stream size                              : 43.7 GiB (94%)
Language                                 : English
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 630 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 460 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 896 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 482 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : Chinese
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Like I said in the other thread, the issue is with your set up. The files you're creating are clearly fine, especially if they're playing in DV with Plex, so I would suggest stop tinkering with the remux process and focus more on the set up. Have you tried any of the suggestions I had mentioned? Another thing you may want to try is just playing the mkv directly from the result of makemkv and see if atmos audio is working from that. If that doesn't work, then there's obviously something that's preventing atmos from being played. What does the rest of your system look like (brand/model of audio receiver, how everything is hooked up, etc)?

for now i think i'm just going to try focus on just getting the dolby vision part of the atmos doesnt work,you got a guide for that too aka ac3?
Mediaplayer: Nvidia Shield TV Pro
TV: LG 55SK7900PLA
Soundbar: LG SK8 (not LG SK8Y)
plex pass user
Discord:Rosa#1111
darrrkmanxxx
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by darrrkmanxxx »

rosavanwinkle wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:35 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:42 pm
rosavanwinkle wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:20 pm
So i just converted a movie using makemkv and then tsmuxer
tried playing it in mxplayer pro i get hdr....
Plex gives me dolby vision. do i have to change some settings?
I seriously am starting to trip out on where i'm wrong.
Discord: Rosa Van Winkle#2593 if anyone wants to guide me through this.

Code: Select all

General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : \\SHIELD\internal\Movies\Yip Man 4.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 46.5 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 45 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 63.3 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate                                 : 59.5 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 24.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.299
Stream size                              : 43.7 GiB (94%)
Language                                 : English
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 630 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 460 cd/m2

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 896 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 482 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : Chinese
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

Like I said in the other thread, the issue is with your set up. The files you're creating are clearly fine, especially if they're playing in DV with Plex, so I would suggest stop tinkering with the remux process and focus more on the set up. Have you tried any of the suggestions I had mentioned? Another thing you may want to try is just playing the mkv directly from the result of makemkv and see if atmos audio is working from that. If that doesn't work, then there's obviously something that's preventing atmos from being played. What does the rest of your system look like (brand/model of audio receiver, how everything is hooked up, etc)?

for now i think i'm just going to try focus on just getting the dolby vision part of the atmos doesnt work,you got a guide for that too aka ac3?
How do you using Plex and which version? Do you have to set up the server and the whole thing or can it just be used as a standalone player? To playback direct from attache to tv hdd?
rosavanwinkle
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by rosavanwinkle »

darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:38 am
rosavanwinkle wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:35 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:42 pm


Like I said in the other thread, the issue is with your set up. The files you're creating are clearly fine, especially if they're playing in DV with Plex, so I would suggest stop tinkering with the remux process and focus more on the set up. Have you tried any of the suggestions I had mentioned? Another thing you may want to try is just playing the mkv directly from the result of makemkv and see if atmos audio is working from that. If that doesn't work, then there's obviously something that's preventing atmos from being played. What does the rest of your system look like (brand/model of audio receiver, how everything is hooked up, etc)?

for now i think i'm just going to try focus on just getting the dolby vision part of the atmos doesnt work,you got a guide for that too aka ac3?
How do you using Plex and which version? Do you have to set up the server and the whole thing or can it just be used as a standalone player? To playback direct from attache to tv hdd?
for now im using a ssd connected to my shield to locally test plex files in mxplayer and shield
Mediaplayer: Nvidia Shield TV Pro
TV: LG 55SK7900PLA
Soundbar: LG SK8 (not LG SK8Y)
plex pass user
Discord:Rosa#1111
darrrkmanxxx
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by darrrkmanxxx »

rosavanwinkle wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:43 am
darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:38 am
rosavanwinkle wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:35 am



for now i think i'm just going to try focus on just getting the dolby vision part of the atmos doesnt work,you got a guide for that too aka ac3?
How do you using Plex and which version? Do you have to set up the server and the whole thing or can it just be used as a standalone player? To playback direct from attache to tv hdd?
for now im using a ssd connected to my shield to locally test plex files in mxplayer and shield

Got it, so you can't use plex as a standalone right? MX Player Pro plays single layer DV mp4 file very well from HDD, but only with HW codec, not HW+
and with mp4 you can't get atmos, unfortunately
kcxserver
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by kcxserver »

darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:58 am
and with mp4 you can't get atmos, unfortunately
that is not completly correct. You cannot save TrueHD (with atmos) in an mp4. A DD+/EAC3 with Atmos also works with an mp4. But this happens very rarely.
kcxserver
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

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mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:24 am
I also don't understand why we need to involve the MakeMKV if we are not going to use the MKV container as a final file. I thought TSMuxer could do all of the above ( DV + HD Audio with Atmos/DTS:X )
MakeMKV is used so that the tsMuxer recognizes the video. An MP4 is not recognized by the tsMuxer. Since it is now recognized, you can insert a TrueHD and then save it as .ts, .m2ts or disc folder. TrueHD was the only limitation with an mp4. DTS-HD, DTS, AC3, EAC3+Atmos and AAC also worked before. (in my case with the shield 2019 pro)
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by shawnc22 »

darrrkmanxxx wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:11 am
Guys, can't we just take the .m2ts file from STREAM folder and do all with tsmusxer? If so, which version I should use?
mulucy wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:24 am
I also don't understand why we need to involve the MakeMKV if we are not going to use the MKV container as a final file. I thought TSMuxer could do all of the above ( DV + HD Audio with Atmos/DTS:X )
Please try to go back and read the first few pages of this thread. Going straight from the unecrypted m2ts file in tsmuxer will leave you with a ts file that still has the BL and EL+RPU layer in separate video tracks. This file can only be played on the x700 (and maybe oppo) to obtain dolby vision. Playing this file anywhere else (if it plays at all) will get you only HDR10. To get DV on other devices such as the Shield, the video tracks must combined first either using yusecope’s tool or the latest version of makemkv (the whole point of creating this thread). In a future version of tsmuxer, you may be able to skip this intermediate step as @jcdr is currently working on an implementation of the dual track to single track conversion into tsmuxer itself.
rosavanwinkle wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:35 am
for now i think i'm just going to try focus on just getting the dolby vision part of the atmos doesnt work,you got a guide for that too aka ac3?
Pretty much just do exactly what you’re currently doing, except add in a step for extracting the audio and converting it to a format that your system is capable of handling. Try reading the first few pages of the other thread; it’s what people had to do previously with the mp4 method because of limitations in the mp4 container in handling truehd atmos tracks.
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

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I have quite a few DV MKVs ripped with previous version of Makemkv into dualPID /separate tracks. Would there be a tool to re-merge the two into the single PID approach 1.15.1 now has?
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by Shasarak »

Okay, this still isn't working for me.

I start with an unencrypted folder backup.

I rip the movie using MakeMKV version 1.15.1, including video, TrueHD track and associated core AC3 track, and English subtitles, but don't include other audio tracks (e.g. other languages and commentary tracks) or other subtitle tracks.

I extract the audio from the MKV file using eac3to version 3.34.0.0.

I combine video and subtitles from the MKV with the audio from the eac3to output into a TS file using TsMuxer version git-111f852a (according to the GUI).

The result will not play on my Oppo 203. Usually it buffers indefinitely; sometimes it appears to play, but with a black screen - the Oppo then identifies the video stream as Dolby Vision but says the bit-rate is 44kbps. (I'm guessing it should be measured in Megabits!)

Can anyone definitely confirm that a TS file produced in this way does play on an Oppo 203? If so, where am I going wrong? If not, is there an alternative approach that will produce something the Oppo can handle? (I'm aware that I can keep the entire disk folder image, copy it into a folder called AVCHD, and then use BDMV Modifier to make the Oppo treat it as if it were a local disc; but I'd prefer some way to extract just the movie file and lose all the extras and menus).
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by Grencola »

Nicktdot wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:30 pm
I have quite a few DV MKVs ripped with previous version of Makemkv into dualPID /separate tracks. Would there be a tool to re-merge the two into the single PID approach 1.15.1 now has?
you could try adding the mkv to tsmuxer and create a bdmv folder as output, then use that in makemkv to get a combined mkv, then add it to tsmuxer once more and make a ts file. no idea if that works though. doubtful, as it would be similar to just demuxing the two video tracks and using yusesope's tool to combine them before making a ts file, which has been tested and doesn't really work well. (the odd mel movie was ok I think)
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