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Re: UHD drives

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:35 pm
by d00zah
Falloutboy wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:07 pm
I have an LG Drive which reports the following under MakeMKV.

Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE-BH14NS40
Revision: 1.00
Serial Number <Redacted :)
Firmware date: 2112-06-16 18:23
Bus Encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 64.

Now I have seen my model mentioned and just wanted to make sure I understood things correctly - the revision is the Firmware revision? and if this is the case from what I have seen I should not need to do anything in order to read a UHD disk on this - is that correct or have I gotten something confused despite all my reading?
'Firmware date: 2112-06-16 18:23' indicates a mfgring date prior to ~2015 (svc code NS40, printed on physical label). Old hardware. Incompatible with UHD.

Discussion of similar drive/issue:

https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 832#p58594

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:55 pm
by Falloutboy
Now I have seen my model mentioned and just wanted to make sure I understood things correctly - the revision is the Firmware revision? and if this is the case from what I have seen I should not need to do anything in order to read a UHD disk on this - is that correct or have I gotten something confused despite all my reading?
[/quote]'Firmware date: 2112-06-16 18:23' indicates a mfgring date prior to 2015 (svc code NS40, printed on physical label). Old hardware. Incompatible with UHD.

Discussion of similar drive/issue:

https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 832#p58594
[/quote]

Thanks for the response, upon checking my drive shows July 2012 and does not show the code NS50.... It was worth a shot :)

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:02 pm
by d00zah
It's always safer to ask. There are numerous threads where people have blindly flashed these drives & while recovery is possible, it's a PITA (for those who didn't read up/ask in the 1st place).

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:20 pm
by SamuriHL
Nevermind....

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:27 am
by DocFlash
Just wanted to say that I bought a ready-to-go drive with enclosure from johngotti (Alex) and it was just that - ready to go. Plugged it into a USB 3.0 port on my computer and started ripping. I also bought some discs from him at a really good price.

He answered a bunch of my questions and helped me pick out what I needed. Great guy.

So if you want to get started and skip the headaches, I would suggest that Alex is your man.

Jeff

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:22 am
by The_Dude
Is the NS60 a better drive than the Asus D1HT?
Read from other forums that AsusD1HT is quite picky and more sensitive when ripping

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:30 am
by MartyMcNuts
The_Dude wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:22 am
Is the NS60 a better drive than the Asus D1HT?
Read from other forums that AsusD1HT is quite picky and more sensitive when ripping
The WH16NS60 is an "official" UHD drive and yes, in my opinion, it is the best drive to have, when used with MakeMKV. I have never had any UHD reading issues when using my WH16NS60.

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:26 am
by The_Dude
Thanks MM
I already have the Asus which I plan to downgrade to 3.02

I was thinking of getting the official NS60 but since it can't be used with AnydvdHD without downgrading the fw then I have to shelve it

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:50 am
by The_Dude
Ok you have every right to bash me and for asking silly and oft repeated questions...
For Asus D1HT with 3.02 friendly fw :
Makemkv and Anydvd support
Can burn?
Any sleep bug issue?

For LGNS60 with friendly fw 1.0:
Makemkv and Anydvd support
Can burn?
Any sleep bug issue

Is my understanding correct?

Ok, come get me.

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:55 am
by MartyMcNuts
The_Dude wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:50 am
Ok you have every right to bash me and for asking silly and oft repeated questions...
For Asus D1HT with 3.02 friendly fw :
Makemkv and Anydvd support
Can burn?
Any sleep bug issue?

For LGNS60 with friendly fw 1.0:
Makemkv and Anydvd support
Can burn?
Any sleep bug issue

Is my understanding correct?

Ok, come get me.
Not quite...

ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.02
Yes - Supported by both programs.
Yes - Can burn BD, DVD and CD discs no problem as is standard ASUS firmware for that model drive.
Yes - There is sleep bug. But, honestly this is not really an issue.

LG WH16NS60 1.00
Yes - MakeMKV support. NO - AnyDVD support.
Yes - Can burn BD, DVD and CD discs no problem as is standard LG firmware for that model drive.
No - Sleep bug as this is an official UHD drive.

Hope this helps.

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:45 am
by The_Dude
Thank you, MM
Much appreciated

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:12 pm
by tragic bleak
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:30 am
The WH16NS60 is an "official" UHD drive and yes, in my opinion, it is the best drive to have, when used with MakeMKV. I have never had any UHD reading issues when using my WH16NS60.
I have done a lot of research and I agree, the WH16NS60 is currently the best drive to get for MakeMKV. Easy to buy (every reseller has it), easy to patch, no sleep bug, reliable.

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:31 pm
by ProphetSe7en
I have read some of the last pages in this thread and it looks like ASUS BW-16D1HT and LG WH16NS60 is the way to go for ripping all of my bluray to my plex library.

Asus is available in my local shop for 100$ while the LG I have to buy of Amazon for a total of 150$ including shipping. Is it worth spending 50$ extra for the LG?

From the list of recommended drives I see that I can also get the following drives at my local shop.

- Asus BC-12D2HT for 80$
- LG BH16NS55 for 130$

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:01 pm
by The_Dude
Installed the ASUS BW-16D1HT into the Vantec enclosure today and confirmed drive was using 3.03 fw.
flashed the fw to 3.02 and it was successfully converted to a friendly drive within 10 seconds!

Installed the evaluation copy of AnyDvdHD and ripping Hacksaw Ridge UHD to iso now......
Next, I will use Makemkv to rip.

Thank you MM for the assistance. Much appreciated!

Initially, I had wanted to purchase a friendly drive from 1 of the sellers here. I thought it will be tough for a noob like me but after reading the thread here, I decided to attempt it. If I brick the drive then it will leave me no choice but to buy from the sellers here.

Anyway, it's looking good so far and the iso rip is expected to complete in 1hr 20mins

btw, is 3.02 the best friendly fw available for the Asus?
I might attempt to cross-flash the Asus next .. :mrgreen:

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:34 pm
by SamuriHL
I use MK 3.10 on my ASUS drive. Works well.