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Re: UHD drives

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:35 pm
by LiGHTaz
Hi everyone! I really appreciate your hobby and want to ask some questions just to make sure my conclusions are right.

I'm from Russia and in our shops I can get HL-DT-ST BH16NS60 for approximately $68 and ASUS BW-16D1HT for approximately $75.

As far as I understood ASUS would be UHD friendly with 3.02 (or 3.10 MK) firmware.

Hitachi-LG is official UHD drive and with downgrading to 1.00 firmware it would work with MakeMKV and also there wouldn't be sleep bug.

Am I right? Am I missing something? Or BH16NS60 ≠ WH16NS60?

What, in your opinion should I get?

If everything is as I described then getting BH16NS60 is an obvious answer to my question?

Or there are some things like ASUS is able to read scratched/bad discs more carefully than LG, ASUS is quiter than LG, etc.?

I'm really confused about all circumstances with official UHD / UHD friendly, "ASUS has better firmware", "LG is loud" and so on...

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:01 am
by jonghotti
BH16NS60 is the retail boxed equivalent of the WH16NS60. I would love to see one in the flesh. For those prices you should get one of each and you're guaranteed to never run into a disc that won't rip in at least one of those.

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:02 am
by LiGHTaz
Well, I'm not sure if it's allowed to post links here, but here's how BH16NS60 (OEM) looks like:
https://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/blu_ray/ ... 94630.html

And here's BW-16D1HT (Retail):
https://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/blu_ray/ ... 79526.html

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:08 pm
by doubles
These companies just have to make everything complicated when anyone who is doing copies for what they deem to be bad reasons will figure out how to anyway. Sigh.

ok:
1. For the NS60 I am confused whether or not simply WATCHING UHD discs can be done on it or not. Are you saying even WATCHING one won't work in the state the drive is received from stores in? If so, that is stupid that it says UHD on it.

2. Is there any reason to believe Pioneer drives are better than the lg/asus ones, unrelated to UHD? Reliability on BR discs or quietness, for instance?

3. Is this all just about official UHD discs? In other words creating discs with home 4k videos and whatnot isn't a problem?

I am leaning towards buying the asus drive, but it's apparently a rebranded lg and I don't typically like lg (already have an external). Only other choice, though, is pioneer and I think that is a "half height" one, which would be odd.

Re: UHD drives

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:38 am
by Billycar11
doubles wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:08 pm
These companies just have to make everything complicated when anyone who is doing copies for what they deem to be bad reasons will figure out how to anyway. Sigh.

ok:
1. For the NS60 I am confused whether or not simply WATCHING UHD discs can be done on it or not. Are you saying even WATCHING one won't work in the state the drive is received from stores in? If so, that is stupid that it says UHD on it.

2. Is there any reason to believe Pioneer drives are better than the lg/asus ones, unrelated to UHD? Reliability on BR discs or quietness, for instance?

3. Is this all just about official UHD discs? In other words creating discs with home 4k videos and whatnot isn't a problem?

I am leaning towards buying the asus drive, but it's apparently a rebranded lg and I don't typically like lg (already have an external). Only other choice, though, is pioneer and I think that is a "half height" one, which would be odd.
1. You can watch disks if you meet the powerdvd UHD requirements and you can do it unofficially without ripping with makemkv and others just a bit of setup

2.no go LG to have a backup plan

3.yes this is about official disks only your own 4k videos could work but that depends on so many things camera codec player support how you burn the disc ect...

Again don't go pioneer if you want UHD I would recommend a WH14NS40 with ns60 1.00 I'm going to be having a sale on them soon they are flashed and tested look here and email me viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17831