Libredrive version v6

Discussion of LibreDrive mode, compatible drives and firmwares
wrk24wheel
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by wrk24wheel » Wed May 20, 2020 1:11 am

I installed the new bin file on my external WH16NS60 running on my mac OSX 10.15.4 through a Thunderbolt 2.0 external enclosure. Drive Information:

OS device name: /dev/rdisk7
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE WH16NS60
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: KLJJATB*****
Firmware date: 2118-10-29 19:36
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 72

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: MT1959
Firmware type: Patched (microcode access re-enabled)
Firmware version: 1.02
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes

While ripping a BD for the first time it spun for about 5 minutes doing nothing, like it timed out. I ejected the disc and restarted MakMkv. This time it worked great. However, once it hit 10.9x, I received the following error:
Program reads data faster than it can write to disk, consider upgrading your hard drive if you see many of these messages.

It looks like my internal Samsung SSD could not keep up with the drive, but that does not make sense. The drive immediately started to back off the speed until it reached 6.5x. Is there a way to limit the speed so this does not happen or is there something else going on here limiting the write speed?

Billycar11
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by Billycar11 » Wed May 20, 2020 6:20 am

Ezatoka wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 5:36 pm
Tried with a DVD now (much easier to see, if it's going max speed, because it has no extras on it. Size: 3893.8 M).

I can't remember having had that error message before on that disc, but the movie extracted without a problem:

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MakeMKV v1.15.1 win(x64-release) started
Error 'Scsi error - ILLEGAL REQUEST:READ OF SCRAMBLED SECTOR WITHOUT AUTHENTICATION' occurred while reading 'BD-RE ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.10' at offset '1048576'
Using direct disc access mode
Using LibreDrive mode (v06 id=0FA242DD4D0B)
Title #1 was added (1 cell(s), 0:00:10)
Title #2 was added (16 cell(s), 1:38:33)
Title #3 was added (1 cell(s), 0:00:05)
Operation successfully completed
Saving 1 titles into directory C:/!media/Blaue Bohnen für ein Halleluja
1 titles saved
16.0 M/s [12.1x] at 50%
20.5 M/s [15.5x] at 100%

Is there a way to go back with Libredrive to test, how it was before?
yeah delete privatedata.tar

morbius
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by morbius » Wed May 20, 2020 12:17 pm

Is this going to be an issue for drive lifetime, in which case this should be a user-selectable feature?

Ezatoka
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by Ezatoka » Wed May 20, 2020 12:56 pm

Billycar11 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 6:20 am
yeah delete privatedata.tar
Thank you. I just moved the .MakeMKV folder completely and redid all of my tests:
(BD1 had no extras at all, so the main movie covered nearly the whole disc, BD2 and 3 had many extra clips)
(The error with the DVD does exist on both versions, so it must have been with the disc before as well.)
Drive: Asus BW-16D1HT 3.10 MK
LibreDrive v5:
DVD: 6.2 M/s at 50%, 7.9 M/s at 100%
BD1: 37.8 M/s at 50%, 48.9 M/s at 100%
BD2: 33mins 5secs for 42.98 Gb, that's in average 22.2 M/s
BD3: 20mins 46secs for 27.62 Gb, that's in average 22.7 M/s

LibreDrive v6:
DVD: 16.0 M/s at 50%, 20.5 M/s at 100%
BD1: 37.8 M/s at 50%, 49 M/s at 100%
BD2: 24mins 24secs for 42.98 Gb, that's in average 29.9 M/s
BD3: 17mins 26secs for 27.62 Gb, that's in average 26.3 M/s

Conclusion:
I'm not sure, why BD1 took the very same time. But for the other discs the speed did increase quite a bit.

planet1
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Libredrive version v6 - Lots of light, just a few shadows

Post by planet1 » Wed May 20, 2020 10:38 pm

Hi,

here are my test results on three LibreDrives (v5 vs. v6) done with two discs:


0. DVD9 + BD50

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Disc Information
Label: CHEERS_SEASON_1_DISC_1
Timestamp: 2003-07-21 20:51:53
Data capacity: 7.51 Gb
Disc type: DVD-ROM
Disc size: 120mm
Maximum read rate: 10.08 Mbps [1x]
Number of layers: 2 (OTP)

Disc Information
Label: TUDORS_P5_DISC1
Timestamp: 2008-10-08 13:54:05
Data capacity: 45.27 Gb
Disc type: BD-ROM
Number of layers: 2
Channel bit length: 74,5 nm (25.0 GB max. per layer)


1. Bufallo BRXL-PT6U2VB (slimdrive was crossflashed with MK firmware LG BU40N v1.03 to gain UHD BD readability)
before: DVD 31min : 05sec // BD 40min : 41sec

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Drive Information
OS device name: G:
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: BUFFALO
Product: Optical Drive
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: 
Firmware date: 2118-10-24 19:34
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 68

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: MT1959
Firmware type: Patched (microcode access re-enabled)
Firmware version: 1.03
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Possible, not yet enabled
after: DVD 31min : 15sec // BD 40min : 36sec

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Drive Information
OS device name: G:
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: BUFFALO
Product: Optical Drive
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: 
Firmware date: 2118-10-24 19:34
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 68

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: MT1959
Firmware type: Patched (microcode access re-enabled)
Firmware version: 1.03
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: No
SUMMARY: No change in ripping speed :|






2. LG BH16NS55 (original firmware v1.02 to retain UHD BD compatibility)
before: DVD 21min : 43sec // BD 30min : 48sec

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Drive Information
OS device name: U:
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE BH16NS55
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: 
Firmware date: 2115-12-11 14:40
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 68

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: MT1959
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.02
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Possible, not yet enabled
after: DVD 9min : 21sec // BD 20min : 31sec

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Drive Information
OS device name: U:
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE BH16NS55
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: 
Firmware date: 2115-12-11 14:40
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 68

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: MT1959
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.02
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
SUMMARY: Ripping time was SLASHED SIGNIFICANTLY!!! (by half for DVD & a third for Blu-ray) :shock: :D :lol: :oops: :roll: :P
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3. LG BH16NS40 (original firmware v1.03 - LibreDrive NEWCOMER)
before: DVD 16min : 55sec // BD 31min : 06sec

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Drive Information
OS device name: B:
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE BH16NS40
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: 
Firmware date: 2115-05-26 17:14
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 68

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: MT1939
Harware support: Yes
Firmware support: No
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.03
DVD all regions: Possible, not yet enabled
BD raw data read: Possible, not yet enabled
BD raw metadata read: Possible, not yet enabled
Unrestricted read speed: Possible, not yet enabled
after: DVD 10min : 03sec // BD 120min : ??sec (aborted)

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Drive Information
OS device name: B:
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE BH16NS40
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: 
Firmware date: 2115-05-26 17:14
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 68

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: MT1939
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.03
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Partial
Unrestricted read speed: Yes
SUMMARY: Ripping time greatly improved for DVD, but HANDBRAKED for Blu-rays (despite multiple trials) :wink: :(
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MartyMcNuts
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by MartyMcNuts » Fri May 22, 2020 2:55 am

Yep, there is definitely something wrong with v6.

I've ripped 3 different UHD's (all 2 layer) on my NS60 and they take longer than they did on v5!!

Yes, they do get quite fast (up to 11x) but once they reach the layer change, they all take 18-20 minutes at 0x (still barely reading at 100-200k/s), then after the layer change has completed, they sit on 2x for the entire second layer.

So, what takes about 40 mins on v5, now takes about 1hour15mins on v6.
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by Bluntman » Fri May 22, 2020 3:32 am

MartyMcNuts wrote:Yep, there is definitely something wrong with v6.

I've ripped 3 different UHD's (all 2 layer) on my NS60 and they take longer than they did on v5!!

Yes, they do get quite fast (up to 11x) but once they reach the layer change, they all take 18-20 minutes at 0x (still barely reading at 100-200k/s), then after the layer change has completed, they sit on 2x for the entire second layer.

So, what takes about 40 mins on v5, now takes about 1hour15mins on v6.
Yes there does appear to be some bugs. My WH16NS60 rips triple layer 4ks so fast. Then I put aquaman in and it locks at 2.0x speed.

Take the disc but it in an LG BU40N on v5 libre and it’s ripping at full speed 6.0x. Definitely bugs to squash. But so much promise!!


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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by jonghotti » Fri May 22, 2020 4:10 am

morbius wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:17 pm
Is this going to be an issue for drive lifetime, in which case this should be a user-selectable feature?
I suggested this the other day as well. I think the default should be OFF as this could be a warranty killer.

Come to think of it when we flash drives with older firmware revisions that nukes the warranty as well right?

Damnit thinking too much again. Lol
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mike admin
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by mike admin » Fri May 22, 2020 1:06 pm

Bluntman wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 3:32 am
MartyMcNuts wrote:Yep, there is definitely something wrong with v6.
Yes there does appear to be some bugs. My WH16NS60 rips triple layer 4ks so fast. Then I put aquaman in and it locks at 2.0x speed.
Take the disc but it in an LG BU40N on v5 libre and it’s ripping at full speed 6.0x. Definitely bugs to squash. But so much promise!!
Yep, apparently firmware is not ready for this. The ONLY thing V6 patch is doing (in regards to the drive speed) - it increases the "max speed" variable. So the drive calculates two values for a given media -
1. "absolute max speed" (using the speed table, medium type and BCA information)
and
2. "max read speed" - a locked-down value based on content type.
All V6 does - it copies (1) to (2).
Apparently there is a persistent firmware bug that manifests on layer change and other seek events, that causes permanent seek/sync errors.

So be it then - the "max speed" will be off by default. Will think about UI....

p.s. in my tests NS60 was very stable...

Woodstock
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by Woodstock » Fri May 22, 2020 1:13 pm

Suggest that the UI include the ability to impose a lower value on "max read speed", for the USB power issue.
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by ThePianoMan2255 » Fri May 22, 2020 6:08 pm

I may completely misunderstand as I am new to all of this. I have the MK Firmware for my WP50NB40 loaded up as well as the LibreDrive 6 running with MakeMKV and it will not allow unrestricted read speads. Is my model not supported?

Thank you

Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE WP50NB40
Revision: 1.01
Serial number: SIKB5HC4J3206
Firmware date: 2117-11-23 16:46
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 25

LibreDrive Information
Status: Enabled
Drive platform: MT1959
Firmware type: Patched (microcode access re-enabled)
Firmware version: 1.01
DVD all regions: Yes
BD raw data read: Yes
BD raw metadata read: Yes
Unrestricted read speed: No

d00zah
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by d00zah » Fri May 22, 2020 6:23 pm

From the 1st post"

"Riplock removal does NOT work with:
Slim drives (they just can't handle increased speed)"

kentguy86
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by kentguy86 » Fri May 22, 2020 9:12 pm

Apologies if this is a redundant question at this point. New to the forum, got firmware patched to 1.00 on BH16N60 backing up like a champ, have tried to drop the bin file in the program folder but doesn't seem to work or I'm very well likely playing it in the wrong folder? Only running v.5 What is the newbie missing?

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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by SamuriHL » Fri May 22, 2020 9:22 pm

mike admin wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 1:06 pm

p.s. in my tests NS60 was very stable...
My NS60 is, too. Please allow us the option because I couldn't be happier right now with it on. :)

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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by Woodstock » Sat May 23, 2020 12:16 am

kentguy86 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 9:12 pm
What is the newbie missing?
You're missing the part that v6 and 7 are experimental at this point, and a newbie shouldn't be trying it until it's merged into the "normal" stream.
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