WH14NS40

Discussion of LibreDrive mode, compatible drives and firmwares
tfunk002
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WH14NS40

Post by tfunk002 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:41 am

I am getting a LibreDrive mode for this drive is only possible with firmware upgrade (id=10F580AD66F8) .
I have a question about this message.
Should I upgrade the firmware or not.
I hope to get some answers soon
thanks

Billycar11
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by Billycar11 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:56 am

tfunk002 wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:41 am
I am getting a LibreDrive mode for this drive is only possible with firmware upgrade (id=10F580AD66F8) .
I have a question about this message.
Should I upgrade the firmware or not.
I hope to get some answers soon
thanks
post your drive info section in makemkv and i can tell you

tfunk002
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by tfunk002 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:43 pm

what do you mean
I am new to forums

tfunk002
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by tfunk002 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:03 pm

I am guessing this is what you are talking about.

Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE WH14NS40
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: KLAJ8PH0044
Firmware date: 2119-01-04 13:51
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 68

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible (with patched firmware)
Drive platform: MT1959
Harware support: Yes
Firmware support: No
Firmware type: Original (patched version available)
Firmware version: 1.04
DVD all regions: Possible (with patched firmware)
BD raw data read: Possible (with patched firmware)
BD raw metadata read: Possible (with patched firmware)
Unrestricted read speed: Possible (with patched firmware)

No disc inserted

Billycar11
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by Billycar11 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:49 pm

tfunk002 wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:03 pm
I am guessing this is what you are talking about.

Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE WH14NS40
Revision: 1.04
Serial number: KLAJ8PH0044
Firmware date: 2119-01-04 13:51
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 68

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible (with patched firmware)
Drive platform: MT1959
Harware support: Yes
Firmware support: No
Firmware type: Original (patched version available)
Firmware version: 1.04
DVD all regions: Possible (with patched firmware)
BD raw data read: Possible (with patched firmware)
BD raw metadata read: Possible (with patched firmware)
Unrestricted read speed: Possible (with patched firmware)

No disc inserted
Yes your drive can be downloaded to read UHD and support libre drive
I recommend you flash WH16NS60 1.02 mk

tfunk002
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by tfunk002 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:05 am

do I need to download the libre drive WH16NS60 1.02 mk

Billycar11
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by Billycar11 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:09 am

tfunk002 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:05 am
do I need to download the libre drive WH16NS60 1.02 mk
Yes you download it

tfunk002
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by tfunk002 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:22 am

where do I find that so I can download it

Billycar11
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by Billycar11 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:55 am

tfunk002 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:22 am
where do I find that so I can download it
Top pined post

tfunk002
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by tfunk002 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:21 pm

you said I need to download that file where can I find it

st4evr
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by st4evr » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:28 pm

tfunk002 wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:21 pm
you said I need to download that file where can I find it
As Billy advised, pay attention to the pinned posts and guides at the top of each forum. You need to do your part and Read. They provide helpful information and answers to these common answers.

https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 19&t=19113

aloha
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Re: WH14NS40

Post by aloha » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:17 am

Hello:

1st - And foremost, apologies for the extreme long post.
2nd - This post is not to start a flame war. It is strictly meant to learn and be helpful for others. That stated...

To all reader that are reading this...
NOTE: This worked for me and me alone. NO GUARANTEE IT WILL WORK FOR YOU.


@Billycar11
In you response to this thread you indicated to download and use WH16NS60 1.02 mk. I asked a similar question and your response in that thread (https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... oha#p85883) was to use 1.00 because "... we recommend 1.00 because of the wider ripper compatibility that's all." Yet, here your are recommending 1.02MK, IMO this leads to confusion as newbies are trying (maybe struggling) to do this and one way says to do it with version 1.02MK, while another way says to do it with DE (Downgrade Enable) version 1.00. No wonder there are so many questions being asked about the correct way the flashing of a optical drive is to be done.

I know the OP was asking about their WH14NS40 drive so to clarify:
The LG WH14NS40 optical drive can burn at a max speed of 14x
The LG WH16NS40 optical drive can burn at a max speed of 16x
So, it appears LG drives use the 14 or 16 to indicate max burn speed. Other than that the drives appear to be identical.


Getting back...
Why the confusion? Well to me it's because there is no simple explanation as to why one version should be used over another. I have flashed my WH16NS40 drives (over 5 - not a lot to many but to me it's a lot as most people don't have more than 2 or 3 drives - and yes, I'll be getting more) to both variants of the firmware. Both worked without issues (IE: read and burned without problems) or the sleep bug. Here goes with my simplified explanation...


The DE_LG_WH16NS60_1.00.bin file (from (Modified) ASUS ODD FW Changer (24.08.2019) + UHD Friendly Firmwares + Latest MK Pack.zip) allows the WH14NS40/WH16NS40 drive to be crossed flashed as a WH16NS60 drive. The .bin is an actual 1.00 version bin with no modifications except for the DE (Downgrade Enabled) flag set to true so that drives with a higher firmware revision can be flashed to the 1.00 version firmware. After flashing with a WH16NS60 - 1.00 firmware the optical drive will work with all software (ANYDrive, DVDFab, etc.) as if the actual WH16NS60 optical drive was actually installed.

The HL-DT-ST-BD-RE_WH16NS60-1.02-NM00100-211810291936.bin file (from mk-firmware-pack-20200214.zip) allows the WH14NS40/WH16NS40 drive to be crossed flashed as a WH16NS60 version 1.02 drive. The .bin is a patched 1.02 WH16NS60 version bin. After flashing with a WH16NS60 - 1.02 firmware, the optical drive will only work with MAKEMKV (per my research thus far) and other software will request using "their" variant of a firmware in order to work correctly. Unknown if "their" firmware variant will work with MakeMKV or if "they" charge for "their" firmware variant.



@tfunk002
Have you already attempted flashing you drive? If not, you might want to consider doing the following:

Make a backup of the current firmware on the drive. How? Well that was answered by mike admin in response to a post I made (https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... ool#p85397) asking about reverting back to "original firmware" if desired. mike admin stated the command line version of MakeMKV has a secret tool and to use that tool to safely (VERY VERY important!) read /save a drives firmware. Using info from another post regarding the sdftool I experimented with one of my WH16NS40 - SVC:NS50 drives and it worked without a problem.


ONCE AGAIN!!!!.....

To all reader that are reading this...
NOTE: This worked for me and me alone. NO GUARANTEE IT WILL WORK FOR YOU.


That stated a few notes:

Open a command window (does not need to open as administrator) in the same folder a MakeMKV (typically: C:\Program Files (x86)\MakeMKV).

Then:
Here is how to use the sdftool that is built in to MakeMKS. Use makemkvcon for 32bit and makemkvcon64 for 64bit depending on your Windows 32/64 bit OS.

From the command line issue the following commands (Example show below presume 64bit system):

1. makemkvcon64.exe f --help (Help file for ALL sdftool commands)
2. makemkvcon64.exe f -l (list all optical drives)
3. makemkvcon64.exe f -d E: dump auto -o C:\path (Example: C:\Users\UserName\Downloads)
Where:
-d = drive name
E: = drive letter of optical drive to be used
dump = dump specified drive's firmware
-o = specify output path for location the ROM dump file
path = actual path where generated ROM as a TAR file will be saved


Further help with specific options:
dump [auto|full|user] dumps firmware image
dump full - dumps full rom image (if not disabled in firmware)
dump user - dumps non-volatile user data
dump auto - dumps full image if possible, user data otherwise


rawflash [main|full|<flags>] sends the image and flashing flags to drive
for flashing in self-update mode
rawflash main - flashes main firmware (this is the default)
rawflash full - flashes boot loader and main firmware (caution!!!)



Steps 01-05 are STRONGLY recommended/suggested if you are using a "virgin" drive in order to be able to flash back to its original state. If the drive has been flashed and the "Original" firmware is forever lost start with instruction # 06.


I would do the following:

01. Open command window
02. Change to folder where MakeMKV is located
03. makemkvcon(64).exe f -d E: dump auto -o C:\path (Example: C:\Users\UserName\Downloads)
(see above "Here is how to use the sdftool that is built in to MakeMKS" whether to use 32/64 bit .exe)

04. Exit/Close the command window
05. Copy the dumped firmware to a safe location (external thumbdrive, NAS, etc) as a backup! NEVER DELETE THIS FILE!

Recommended - watch Billcar11's video on how to use the "BH14NS40_N1.00-A4_patched.exe" application
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfpf6HoMMis skip to 0:42 to see how to load .bin file and how to execute flashing

06. Execute "BH14NS40_N1.00-A4_patched.exe" (found in "Downgrade Enabled Firmware V.2.zip" file)
07. Select the "DE_LG_WH16NS60_1.00.bin" or "HL-DT-ST-BD-RE_WH16NS60-1.02-NM00100-211810291936.bin" firmware file (see above for explanation of each file and respective file location)
08. Flash the optical drive WH14NS40/WH16NS40 SVC:NS50 (make sure antivirus, screen saver, etc. are temp disabled so as to not interrupt flash proceedure)
09. HOLD BREATH!
10. Reboot when requested.
11. Confirm desired flashed firmware version using MakeMKV
12. If confirmed, do happy dance!



If you have already flashed your drive to 1.02MK, then you might want to consider re-flashing to 1.00 for a more "compatible"/"wider ripper compatibility" (see above) drive.

Hope this helps all that read this post.
A

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Re: WH14NS40

Post by SamuriHL » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:54 pm

1.00 vs 1.02mk... if you're on a version of a firmware that requires an mk version in order to downgrade, then 1.02mk is going to be recommended. If you're on a version of a firmware that allows straight downgrading or cross flashing, 1.00 is going to be recommended. It's really that simple.

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Re: WH14NS40

Post by jonghotti » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:03 pm

If you'd rather not flash it yourself I've got you covered.
The Original "UHD Friendly" Drive Seller
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17829

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Re: WH14NS40

Post by TheLoonyRebel » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:38 pm

I have this HS14NS40 can I use LibreDrive firmware with this one?

Drive Information
OS device name: H:
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE WH14NS40
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: K98F2EB1648
Firmware date: 2114-03-26 11:05
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 65

LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, not yet enabled
Drive platform: MT1939
Harware support: Yes
Firmware support: No
Firmware type: Original (unpatched)
Firmware version: 1.03
DVD all regions: Possible, not yet enabled
BD raw data read: Possible, not yet enabled
BD raw metadata read: Possible, not yet enabled
Unrestricted read speed: Possible, not yet enabled

No disc inserted

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