My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by mike admin » Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:31 pm

icourt wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:18 pm
So we’re talking cross-flashing a BDR-205 with GGW-20L firmware. If it’s far from trivial, then it’s still possible... right? ;)
Yes. Hardware is identical.

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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by Blackened2687 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:47 am

These drives have different PCB layout and optical pickups (LG uses Hitachi-made pickup, while Pioneer uses its own pickup). Even if both drives theoretically could be "crossflashed", the amount of work necessary in order to make the drive firmware work properly with different optical head and other electronics is probably out of this world.

In my humble opinion, it should be simplier to, say, make BDR-208 drives support UHD media or to add HD DVD writing capabilities to GGW-H20L (AFAIK, the drive has everything necessary for it).

BTW, I personally have Toshiba SD-H903A HD DVD-R drive pulled from Japanese standalone HD DVD-R recorder, but its command system appears to be incompatible with generic PC burning/reading software, the drive refuses to write anything except lead-in to HD DVD and, thus, corrupts the expensive and hard-to-find today HD DVD-R media. I wonder, if it's possible to do something about it?

Maybe it's possible to extract and patch its firmware to make it work on PC? I don't know, if the firmware dump from laptop HD DVD burner from Toshiba could help in this task. I have it myself, too (SD-L912A).

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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by nekno » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:30 am

I'm hoping this might also help my lesser-known LG GGC-H20L model variant, which reads but doesn't write HD-DVDs.

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Drive Information
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BDDVDRW GGC-H20L
Revision: 1.03
Firmware date: 2008-05-15 12:34:56

LibreDrive Information
Status: Not possible
Drive platform: RS1013
Firmware version: 1.03-
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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by mercennarius » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:34 pm

So how hard will it be to turn these into a libredrive?

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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by nekno » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:13 pm

Now if I can only find that Xbox 360 external HD-DVD drive laying around here somewhere...

IIRC, it was also a Toshiba model of some sort, since they were the principal proponent of the standard.

I was so convinced HD DVD was going to win out, given its benefits and Sony's previous efforts to strong-arm the industry with Betamax vs VHS, but here we are today with the lone BD/UHD BD standards.

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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by icourt » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:02 pm

mercennarius wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:34 pm
So how hard will it be to turn these into a libredrive?
I'm sure Mike will take a look, when he has the time.

nekno wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:13 pm
Now if I can only find that Xbox 360 external HD-DVD drive laying around here somewhere...
I've got a box full of those somewhere, all still sealed, never seen the light of day. Not sure they will ever be of much use. :lol:

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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by AffSeda » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:02 am

My original question about drive platforms seemed so innocuous at the time...

If it will help, I can provide ssh access or remote desktop access to a rig with one of these drives in it. It's not in use otherwise, but it runs Debian. There's no Windows here. No personal information is kept on that system.

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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by ImCoKeMaN » Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:31 pm

I have a laptop with an RS1013 drive, it doesn't say it is hddvd, but would it still be helpful at all to send in the firmware?
Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BDDVDRW CT10L
Revision: YC07
Firmware date: 2008-09-12 12:34:56
Highest AACS version: 65

LibreDrive Information
Status: Not possible
Drive platform: RS1013
Firmware version: YC07-03a091208

Not sure I'd gain too much from libredrive on this one, other than it being awesome, but figured I'd share if there is any need and add a vote that there is another RS1013 out there still spinning

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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by AffSeda » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:12 am

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LibreDrive Information
Status: Possible, might be supported in future, but not likely soon
Drive platform: RS1013
Firmware version: XL07-00
Yay, there's hope yet :p

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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by mercennarius » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:36 pm

Any updates on this?

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Re: My poor ancient HD-DVD/BD Combo!

Post by mercennarius » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:32 pm

mike admin wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:31 pm
icourt wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:18 pm
So we’re talking cross-flashing a BDR-205 with GGW-20L firmware. If it’s far from trivial, then it’s still possible... right? ;)
Yes. Hardware is identical.
Hey Mike, Just checking to see if there's been any more thought put into these drives? Curious if they can be made into a libre drive as well. Thanks!

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