Playing 4K HDR Bluray RIP directly

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Vineet Reddy
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Playing 4K HDR Bluray RIP directly

Post by Vineet Reddy » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:38 pm

Hello I am new to this 4K world as I am planning to buy new 4K TV. I wanna know that will I need some special equipment to play 4K HDR Bluray rip .mkv file or can I directly play from my external HDD.

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Post by Woodstock » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:35 pm

If you look in the right forum, you'll find much information about 4K playback.
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Post by BlueMac77 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:58 am

Vineet Reddy wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:38 pm
Hello I am new to this 4K world as I am planning to buy new 4K TV. I wanna know that will I need some special equipment to play 4K HDR Bluray rip .mkv file or can I directly play from my external HDD.
You can play and watch UHD movies from your HD. Use MakeMKV and rip your UHD 4k movies to your HD using a “UHD Friendly” Optical Drive with the correct firmware. The article below will help you with your setup.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16832

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Post by Vineet Reddy » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:26 am

BlueMac77 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:58 am
Vineet Reddy wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:38 pm
Hello I am new to this 4K world as I am planning to buy new 4K TV. I wanna know that will I need some special equipment to play 4K HDR Bluray rip .mkv file or can I directly play from my external HDD.
You can play and watch UHD movies from your HD. Use MakeMKV and rip your UHD 4k movies to your HD using a “UHD Friendly” Optical Drive with the correct firmware. The article below will help you with your setup.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16832
Are you sure that I can I run 4K HDR Bluray .mkv directly from HDD by plugging it to the TV. Is there any requirement of software etc.

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Post by BlueMac77 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:50 pm

Vineet Reddy wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:26 am

Are you sure that I can I run 4K HDR Bluray .mkv directly from HDD by plugging it to the TV. Is there any requirement of software etc.
Your HD TV needs to be connected to your computer to play .mkv movies. The TV needs to be compatible with your computer. You’ll need a third party player like PowerDVD. About direct playback of 4K HDR blu-ray to your TV I’m not sure about that.

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Post by Vineet Reddy » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:09 pm

BlueMac77 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:50 pm
Vineet Reddy wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:26 am

Are you sure that I can I run 4K HDR Bluray .mkv directly from HDD by plugging it to the TV. Is there any requirement of software etc.
Your HD TV needs to be connected to your computer to play .mkv movies. The TV needs to be compatible with your computer. You’ll need a third party player like PowerDVD. About direct playback of 4K HDR blu-ray to your TV I’m not sure about that.
So, playing 4K HDR .mkv content directly from HDD is not possible.

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Post by d00zah » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:48 pm

Vineet Reddy wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:09 pm
BlueMac77 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:50 pm
Vineet Reddy wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:26 am

Are you sure that I can I run 4K HDR Bluray .mkv directly from HDD by plugging it to the TV. Is there any requirement of software etc.
Your HD TV needs to be connected to your computer to play .mkv movies. The TV needs to be compatible with your computer. You’ll need a third party player like PowerDVD. About direct playback of 4K HDR blu-ray to your TV I’m not sure about that.
So, playing 4K HDR .mkv content directly from HDD is not possible.
IF you are asking whether your TV can play '4K HDR .mkv content directly from HDD', it depends on what your TV (player) supports. I don't believe you've shared what make/model TV you have, but the TV manual will detail what video/audio codecs are supported.

edit... I see you mention you are "planning to buy new 4K TV". The aforementioned codec support for a particular make/model is what you should be researching.

edit 2... or, per conventional wisdom, purchase an external player which is likely to have broader codec support than the majority of TVs.

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Post by Vineet Reddy » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:58 pm

d00zah wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:48 pm
IF you are asking whether your TV can play '4K HDR .mkv content directly from HDD', it depends on what your TV (player) supports. I don't believe you've shared what make/model TV you have, but the TV manual will detail what video/audio codecs are supported.
That makes sense. I am waiting for SONY X950G as it will be the best LED TV launching this year. OLED TV is not suitable for me as I will be using it over very long period of time.
d00zah wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:48 pm
edit... I see you mention you are "planning to buy new 4K TV". The aforementioned codec support for a particular make/model is what you should be researching.
Do SONY TVs in general support 4K HDR .mkv rip. I did test 4K .mkv trailer on previous gen X930E which did successfully run, but that trailer was downloaded from Youtube and I don't think it was HDR content. Probably the codec will differ for that Trailer from bluray rip.
d00zah wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:48 pm
edit 2... or, per conventional wisdom, purchase an external player which is likely to have broader codec support than the majority of TVs.
I seriously don't wanna spend on external players as a decent one costs a lot for which I have to compromise on budget or TV itself. Unless necessary I wanna avoid it.

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Post by Woodstock » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:41 pm

While it is nice to have things integrated, "Smart" is a term TV manufacturers throw about with abandon, and really doesn't mean what people think it means. And, when the TV manufacturer "gets bored" with your model, the updates to allow it to support more stuff evaporate.

Some TVs have Android-based computers built in to them. These approach being "smart", as long as they can be updated. While the display of the TV can last for years, the "smarts" can become obsolete in months.

There has been much written about how "dumb monitors" are more expensive than "smart TVs" simply because the computers are so cheap, and making the market wider for the same hardware drives down costs. A computer that can play h.265 4K content costs $10 or less to add to the design. It won't do so well when standards move on to things like AV1.

Personally, I'd recommend buying the TV based on the number (and capability) of inputs, rather than the built-in computer, so you can drive the monitor long after standards change.
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Post by joshuagoard » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:47 pm

Vineet Reddy wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:58 pm
d00zah wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:48 pm
IF you are asking whether your TV can play '4K HDR .mkv content directly from HDD', it depends on what your TV (player) supports. I don't believe you've shared what make/model TV you have, but the TV manual will detail what video/audio codecs are supported.
That makes sense. I am waiting for SONY X950G as it will be the best LED TV launching this year. OLED TV is not suitable for me as I will be using it over very long period of time.
d00zah wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:48 pm
edit... I see you mention you are "planning to buy new 4K TV". The aforementioned codec support for a particular make/model is what you should be researching.
Do SONY TVs in general support 4K HDR .mkv rip. I did test 4K .mkv trailer on previous gen X930E which did successfully run, but that trailer was downloaded from Youtube and I don't think it was HDR content. Probably the codec will differ for that Trailer from bluray rip.
d00zah wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:48 pm
edit 2... or, per conventional wisdom, purchase an external player which is likely to have broader codec support than the majority of TVs.
I seriously don't wanna spend on external players as a decent one costs a lot for which I have to compromise on budget or TV itself. Unless necessary I wanna avoid it.

Yes. I have owned several Sony 4k tvs and they all will play a .mkv file without any extra software needed using the built in video player app. Plug the drive in, wait for the Video app to recognize it and you're all set.

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Post by joshuagoard » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:50 pm

Woodstock wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:41 pm
While it is nice to have things integrated, "Smart" is a term TV manufacturers throw about with abandon, and really doesn't mean what people think it means. And, when the TV manufacturer "gets bored" with your model, the updates to allow it to support more stuff evaporate.

Some TVs have Android-based computers built in to them. These approach being "smart", as long as they can be updated. While the display of the TV can last for years, the "smarts" can become obsolete in months.

There has been much written about how "dumb monitors" are more expensive than "smart TVs" simply because the computers are so cheap, and making the market wider for the same hardware drives down costs. A computer that can play h.265 4K content costs $10 or less to add to the design. It won't do so well when standards move on to things like AV1.

Personally, I'd recommend buying the TV based on the number (and capability) of inputs, rather than the built-in computer, so you can drive the monitor long after standards change.
I think this is a bit overthought personally. A smart tv is designed to play Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, ect. I am not aware of any smart tv that the company abandons in a few months. Maybe if you go ultra cheap and buy a no name black friday model that nobody has ever heard of before...But if you buy any well known brand, even years after they stop receiving updates the smart platform will continue to work. I've had an old Samsung blu ray player that was manufactured in 2010 and Netflix and YouTube and all the other apps still work...

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Post by jonghotti » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:46 am

>>OLED TV is not suitable for me as I will be using it over very long period of time.<<

What is this now? More OLED burn-in kool aid drinking nonsense? Unless you're a hardcore gamer using an OLED TV as your monitor, which due to the input lag you wouldn't be, you should not have any issue with burn in. I'm assuming this is what the OP was getting at and if he's not then my apology. If he is shying away from buying a Sony OLED because of fears of so called "burn in" I can tell you that you are making a huge mistake. My Sony A1E now has thousands of hours on it without a even a hint of any image retention. Please, stop with the burn-in fear mongering.

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Post by g4sho » Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:41 am

I have oled from 2016, and burnin has nothing to do with koolaid are misuse. It is real I have it on my LG-C6, and I am not a novice. Been using tv's for computer monitors and games since the 90's.Still have pioneer kuro 60 inch that never got it, over 8 years of same useage.

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Playing 4K HDR Bluray RIP directly

Post by FrankWet » Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:40 pm

Is it possible to play patches, combis, & seqs directly from SD Card?

Or does all information have to be transferred into into memory?

thanks,

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