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Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:32 am
by frothr
Hey, I was looking for the correct playlist for the Salo bluray (BFI version). I sent the info to support as posted but haven't heard anything back in a little over a week. I'm sure you're busy but wasn't sure if you received it or needed anything else. Just let me know. Thanks

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:15 pm
by O2BNTEXAS
Is the “fake playlist” strictly a Lionsgate blue-ray disc issue or does in include regular DVD’s from them?

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:16 pm
by Woodstock
Yes, unfortunately, the DVDs are also screwy, just fewer fake titles.

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:50 pm
by O2BNTEXAS
Thanks Woodstock. BTW, is there an explanation on how to deal with Lionsgate disc, written in layman’s terms. I’m new to burning disc and setting up my new NAS. Thanks...

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:05 pm
by Woodstock
My way of avoiding the problem is to avoid Lionsgate... But, that's not practical for people who want the latest movies. If they were to invade the anime market, it would probably blow up on them.

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:34 am
by neilwilkes
By "Fake Playlists" do you mean the way things are done using the Scrambling protection from Allatori?
I ask because all our BD-J titles have the code scrambled - and we do this to make it very difficult, if not downright impossible, to allow other 'authors' an easy way to steal our code, which has taken years to develop and that we consider proprietary property - even though Java is open source we still had to learn how to code these discs.

If you are referring to something else, I will be happy to help but wanted to get things out in the open in the first instance.

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:21 pm
by Woodstock
neilwilkes wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:34 am
By "Fake Playlists" do you mean the way things are done using the Scrambling protection from Allatori?
No, the obfuscation being discussed here is where multiple play lists, with varying segment maps, are used, only one of which is real. The Java code on the disk tells the player which one it is.

The Java itself may be obfuscated, too. That might explain why "real" Oracle Java is necessary to interpret it; There have been issues with using OpenJDK. Whether those are because of the Java code itself, I do not know.

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:16 pm
by wrldtvlr
Is there a way to unselect all the playlists that default to selected when you scan a disc? Ctl-A doesn't work and unchecking each playlist is really a pain on Lionsgate titles.

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:25 pm
by d00zah
Right-click on the title list & choose "Unselect all".

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:32 pm
by wrldtvlr
Sigh. Thank you.

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:06 am
by Kris79
wrldtvlr wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:16 pm
Is there a way to unselect all the playlists that default to selected when you scan a disc? Ctl-A doesn't work and unchecking each playlist is really a pain on Lionsgate titles.
The Crtl+A worked for me once. Then it would not work. Curious.

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:03 pm
by Woodstock
Keyboard commands depend on where the "focus" is; you have to select the left window before Ctrl-A would work, either by clicking on it or using Ctrl-Tab to switch between windows. Clicking is faster, and a RIGHT-click selects it AND brings up the context menu, so it's kind of a win-win.

Re: "Fake playlist" protection - help needed

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:17 am
by Krawk
Woodstock wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:16 pm
Yes, unfortunately, the DVDs are also screwy, just fewer fake titles.
With DVDs they often route you through an area of the disc that doesn't exist, so you get read errors (bad sectors.)
I have not seen MakeMKV identify correct playlists on DVDs.