Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

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Hofmeister
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Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by Hofmeister »

The bfi box set "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema" contains 8 films on 9 discs (with two cuts of TOM JONES). Two of the discs are straightforward (with a single playlist for the main feature), the others yield enormous numbers of fake titles. Unlike other users, I have never seen MakeMKV suggest a main feature on my setup (MakeMKV v1.14.2, macOS 10.14.3), and identify the playlists in question on my own.

These are the correct playlists for the films in the set, I hope they're of use for someone:

Title information
Name: Look Back in Anger (English)
Source file name: 00392.mpls
Duration: 1:39:30
Chapters count: 12
Size: 22.1 GB
Segment count: 21
Segment map: 516,500,515,510,504,508,519,509,514,512,507,511,501,502,513,518,503,517,505,520,506
File name: Look Back in Anger_t169.mkv

Title information
Name: The Entertainer (English)
Source file name: 00572.mpls
Duration: 1:43:34
Chapters count: 12
Size: 23.0 GB
Segment count: 20
Segment map: 511,514,504,510,515,503,513,507,509,516,518,517,519,505,501,512,500,506,502,508
File name: The Entertainer_t233.mkv

Title information
Name: Saturday_Night_Sunday_Morning
Source file name: 00002.mpls
Duration: 1:29:05
Chapters count: 12
Size: 13.7 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 2
File name: title_t01.mkv

Title information
Name: A Taste of Honey (English)
Source file name: 00826.mpls
Duration: 1:40:33
Chapters count: 12
Size: 21.2 GB
Segment count: 21
Segment map: 501,506,515,517,505,502,504,520,516,509,500,508,510,514,518,503,511,507,512,513,519
File name: A Taste of Honey_t205.mkv

Title information
Name: The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner
Source file name: 00002.mpls
Duration: 1:43:43
Chapters count: 15
Size: 16.7 GB
Segment count: 1
Segment map: 2
File name: The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner_t01.mkv

Title information
Name: Tom Jones (English)
Source file name: 00751.mpls
Duration: 2:08:28
Chapters count: 12
Size: 28.5 GB
Segment count: 21
Segment map: 505,515,501,518,506,516,508,500,502,504,511,503,520,510,514,509,512,507,517,519,513
File name: Tom Jones_t305.mkv

Title information
Name: Tom Jones, Directors Cut (English)
Source file name: 00938.mpls
Duration: 2:01:21
Chapters count: 12
Size: 28.5 GB
Segment count: 21
Segment map: 505,518,520,504,506,509,501,513,516,517,511,515,512,514,507,500,503,502,519,508,510
File name: Tom Jones, Directors Cut_t374.mkv

Title information
Name: Girl with Green Eyes (English)
Source file name: 00521.mpls
Duration: 1:32:16
Chapters count: 12
Size: 21.0 GB
Segment count: 21
Segment map: 520,501,511,517,509,505,515,506,502,514,519,512,518,510,508,503,513,507,516,500,504
File name: Girl with Green Eyes_t211.mkv

Title information
Name: The Knack... and How to Get It (English)
Source file name: 00791.mpls
Duration: 1:25:10
Chapters count: 12
Size: 20.0 GB
Segment count: 21
Segment map: 515,514,509,503,507,519,502,500,505,516,501,518,508,517,511,504,510,520,512,506,513
File name: The Knack... and How to Get It_t102.mkv
Chabrolesque
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Re: Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by Chabrolesque »

Delayed response, but... Thanks for this—these were the first discs where I’ve encountered the issue, so your post saved me a lot of time.

Out of curiosity, how did you determine the correct playlists? I’ve found two more boxsets in my collection—the BFI Alan Clarke set and one of Indicator’s Hammer Films sets—with the same playlist issue, and I don’t see any indications as to which is the correct one. I also haven’t found any more info by googling their titles, probably because they’re relatively niche releases.
Hofmeister
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Re: Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by Hofmeister »

Sorry to reply so late, I should visit the forum more often.

I determined the playlists manually by looking at the segments' starts and endings. This will tell you the one valid sequence to look for. Then I admit I waded through the segment maps on offer (you get into the habit quickly and get used to skimming the list for just likely candidates) until I saw the good map and selected that.

The process can be tedious (or meditative :wink: ) . I am sure there are discs out there from other labels (with endless misleading maps) where this is not a viable way to go. With bfi releases it's not too bad.

If you know of a less time-consuming mode that works, I'm listening!
zzeedd56
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Re: Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by zzeedd56 »

I have the BFI stand alone Blu Ray for this movie "The Knack... and How to Get It "(1965) ..released by BFI June 18, 2018. My info is slightly different concerning the File name which was t317.mkv. The segment map and source file name are verified correct for this movie. A big Thank you to "Hofmeister "for sorting out the segment map, which had over 400 different ones to choose from on my stand alone disk from BFI. A real timesaver that was!!
Title information
Name: The Knack... and How to Get It (English)
Source file name: 00791.mpls
Duration: 1:25:10
Chapters count: 12
Size: 20.0 GB
Segment count: 21
Segment map: 515,514,509,503,507,519,502,500,505,516,501,518,508,517,511,504,510,520,512,506,513
File name: The Knack... and How to Get It_t317.mkv
sandersoni
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Re: Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by sandersoni »

TINFO:210,16,0,"00521.mpls"
TINFO:210,25,0,"21"
TINFO:210,26,0,"520,501,511,517,509,505,515,506,502,514,519,512,518,510,508,503,513,507,516,500,504"
TINFO:210,27,0,"Girl with Green Eyes_t210.mkv"
TINFO:210,28,0,"eng"
TINFO:210,29,0,"English"
Confirming Girl With the Green Eyes.
I came to the same result.
zzeedd56
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Re: Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by zzeedd56 »

I have the single stand alone BLU RAY of the BFI " THE ENTERTAINER"
I found the map slightly different than the 9 disk package.
it is located at T232 not T233 but the 00572.mpls is the same on both the single disk and the 9disk package.

Name: The Entertainer (English)
Source file name: 00572.mpls
Duration: 1:43:34
Chapters count: 12
Size: 23.0 GB
Segment count: 20
Segment map: 511,514,504,510,515,503,513,507,509,516,518,517,519,505,501,512,500,506,502,508
File name: The Entertainer_t232.mkv
Hofmeister
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Re: Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by Hofmeister »

I noticed that a lot: Apparently the title count may vary from one attempt to the next (but the playlist # is the same)
d00zah
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Re: Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by d00zah »

Hofmeister wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 7:46 pm
I noticed that a lot: Apparently the title count may vary from one attempt to the next (but the playlist # is the same)
Title # will vary, depending on the value of "Minimum title length (in seconds)" set in Preferences > Video tab. Of little value when identifying the "correct" title. Look for the "playlist" (.mpls) instead.
sandersoni
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Re: Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by sandersoni »

Brilliant, thank you for posting this!
freelunch1947
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Re: Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by freelunch1947 »

Hofmeister wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:59 am
Title information
Name: Tom Jones, Directors Cut (English)
Source file name: 00938.mpls
Duration: 2:01:21
Chapters count: 12
Size: 28.5 GB
Segment count: 21
Segment map: 505,518,520,504,506,509,501,513,516,517,511,515,512,514,507,500,503,502,519,508,510
File name: Tom Jones, Directors Cut_t374.mkv
I was grateful to see your analysis of this disc. In my case, the file name was wrong, i.e. not t374. But, I could use the segment map to track down the correct file, which turned out to be t373.

Thank you for that!
Woodstock
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Re: Working playlists for "Woodfall – A Revolution in British Cinema"

Post by Woodstock »

Title numbers depend on how you set the minimum time. If you set a minimum time of 120 seconds, it will count only titles that are 120 seconds (2 minutes) long; if you set 1200, it will only count titles that are 1200 seconds or longer (20 minutes). So the "txxx" will change for different people.
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