Divergent Bluray

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u4ricmind
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Divergent Bluray

Post by u4ricmind » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:12 pm

Has anyone manage to figure out which is the correct playlist per say a redbox version?

Chipwager
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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by Chipwager » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:38 pm

Likely either 565 or 810 as they both have correct run time (02:19:40) to my knowledge.

WAYFLIX
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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by WAYFLIX » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:44 pm

Yes please. There is like 1000's of them.

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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by jrwalker4 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:55 pm

u4ricmind wrote: Has anyone manage to figure out which is the correct playlist per say a redbox version?
UPC: 0 31398 19872 7 (Purchased from Amazon)

On my disc only 00760.mpls had both the correct movie duration (2:19:40) and correct Chapter List:

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nickbits
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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by nickbits » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:11 pm

I found 00565 and 00810 are 2:19:40 on my disc. I don't know if either of them is right but I hope that helps.

thejester
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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by thejester » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:33 pm

AnyDVD reports that pls 370, 612 & 810 are "good". That is from the Redbox rental.
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nickbuol
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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by nickbuol » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:41 pm

We bought the Target 3 disc version today and there are 2 that are the correct number of chapters and the currect duration of 2:19:40

00019.mpls with segment map: 509,502,516,508,510,515,507,503,511,501,504,512,514,506,505
and
00760.mpls with segment map: 509,502,516,513,508,510,515,507,503,511,501,504,512,506,505

Both are also 32.4GB with 16 chapters.

Not sure which one is correct. I know that 00760.mpls was mentioned above for another disc and it has the same segment map order, but some confirmation would be helpful. Not sure how to know which one is right.

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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by nickbuol » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:47 pm

WAYFLIX wrote:Yes please. There is like 1000's of them.
Go into your settings (the little wrench icon) and set the "Minimum title length (seconds):" to something like 3600. That will filter out everything under 1 hour, which should cover most previews, special features, etc and leave you with just movies.

Now with Divergent (and some others) you will still have a few choices left, but hopefully not hundreds, or as you put is "1000's of them." :(

Hope that helps. Your mileage may vary, of course, based off of the disc you actually have. Target Exclusive retail gives me just 7 to pick from and 2 with the correct time length using this method that has been shared by many others on these forums.

(Edited to provide some clarity about different discs yielding different results.)
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WAYFLIX
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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by WAYFLIX » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:59 pm

nickbuol wrote:
WAYFLIX wrote:Yes please. There is like 1000's of them.
Go into your settings (the little wrench icon) and set the "Minimum title length (seconds):" to something like 3600. That will filter out everything under 1 hour, which should cover most previews, special features, etc and leave you with just movies.

Now with Divergent (and some others) you will still have a few choices left, but at least it isn't hundreds, or as you put is "1000's of them."

Hope that helps.
Ha. I'm set at 1000 sec and they are all over 2hrs.

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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by ixion » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:32 am

nickbuol wrote:
WAYFLIX wrote:Yes please. There is like 1000's of them.
Go into your settings (the little wrench icon) and set the "Minimum title length (seconds):" to something like 3600. That will filter out everything under 1 hour, which should cover most previews, special features, etc and leave you with just movies.

Now with Divergent (and some others) you will still have a few choices left, but at least it isn't hundreds, or as you put is "1000's of them."

Hope that helps.
Dude, sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about. This disc uses obfuscation which is a new method the manufacturers are using to make it hard to copy. Basically they create hundreds (yes hundreds) of titles that use playlists which are all about the same length so you can't tell which one is the real movie playlist. To make it worse, different versions of the disc have different playlist structures, so it's even harder to figure out.

In the case of Divergent, I just checked, and with my minimum title length set to 3600, I still get 299 different titles, and many of them are the same length, or within a couple seconds of each other.
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copierguy.mobile
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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by copierguy.mobile » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:57 am

u4ricmind wrote:Has anyone manage to figure out which is the correct playlist per say a redbox version?

00810.mpls - 16ch - (2:19:40) - 525,522,523,508,516,504,506,510,511,518,512,503,501,517,509

Appears to be correct.

ixion
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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by ixion » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:09 am

First, if you are using AnyDVD 7.5.0.0, this disc will cause AnyDVD to crash. You have to install AnyDVD 7.5.0.2 Beta to fix this.

Using the rental disc of Divergent, AnyDVD is reporting this:

Java BD protection good playlists: 370, 612, 810

Given that others have reported a play length of 2:19:40, then I'd have to say that 00810.mpls is the correct one:

Source file name: 00810.mpls
Duration: 2:19:40
Chapters count: 16
Size: 20.0 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 525,522,523,508,516,504,506,510,511,518,512,503,501,517,509

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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by fritz » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:39 am

thejester wrote:AnyDVD reports that pls 370, 612 & 810 are "good". That is from the Redbox rental.
How does it report that? You mean on their forum? Or some way to look using AnyDVD?

bk7777
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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by bk7777 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:01 am

Title information
Name: Divergent
Source file name: 00810.mpls
Duration: 2:19:40
Chapters count: 16
Size: 20.0 GB
Segment count: 15
Segment map: 525,522,523,508,516,504,506,510,511,518,512,503,501,517,509

From Linux version.

redbox blu-ray

565 has the correct time but they twisted the jump scene sequence. have an hour to go in watching 810 so far it is good.

nickbuol
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Re: Divergent Bluray

Post by nickbuol » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:11 am

ixion wrote:
nickbuol wrote:
WAYFLIX wrote:Yes please. There is like 1000's of them.
Go into your settings (the little wrench icon) and set the "Minimum title length (seconds):" to something like 3600. That will filter out everything under 1 hour, which should cover most previews, special features, etc and leave you with just movies.

Now with Divergent (and some others) you will still have a few choices left, but at least it isn't hundreds, or as you put is "1000's of them."

Hope that helps.
Dude, sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about. This disc uses obfuscation which is a new method the manufacturers are using to make it hard to copy. Basically they create hundreds (yes hundreds) of titles that use playlists which are all about the same length so you can't tell which one is the real movie playlist. To make it worse, different versions of the disc have different playlist structures, so it's even harder to figure out.

In the case of Divergent, I just checked, and with my minimum title length set to 3600, I still get 299 different titles, and many of them are the same length, or within a couple seconds of each other.
Wow. I guess that you are the expert, sorry...

This type of copy-protection has been used before and other iterations of it, and you still can weed through most of the titles using this method for pretty much anything.

I mentioned that I had the Target version, and yes I actually bought it... You have the Redbox rental apparently and as stated all over these forums (and in my post above) that things vary from one disc to another, so we are in agreement there too.

Here is what I get with the latest version of MakeMKV and the Target Divergent blu-ray. Just 7 total choices. (The two that are "checked" are the only two with the correct length.) Far from the hundreds of choices that you are seeing.

Now in all honesty you may be seeing something different due to other settings, or just the fact that the Redbox disc is different, but as you can see in my screenshot, mine skipped a LOT (it goes back further too) of less than 3600 second titles and left me with 7 that made weeding by title length down to 2 a lot easier. I was simply trying to offer help since it work with the version I bought and this method is actually discussed on these very forums as a way around a bunch of the bogus titles. You mileage varied, but it is far from saying that someone has no idea what they are talking about. Here is the screenshot I took from the Target 3-disc Exclusive retail disc.

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