The Wall

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hvnphoto
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The Wall

Post by hvnphoto » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:59 pm

Title information
Name: The Wall
Source file name: 00273.mpls
Duration: 1:29:54
Chapters count: 16
Size: 22.3 GB
Segment count: 20
Segment map: 505,519,513,506,504,517,515,518,508,500,501,514,511,510,502,509,503,507,512,516
File name: The_Wall_t113.mkv

drbuckingham
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Re: The Wall

Post by drbuckingham » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:59 pm

Is that the retail version, redbox version, etc.?

bretb
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Re: The Wall

Post by bretb » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:06 pm

drbuckingham wrote:Is that the retail version, redbox version, etc.?

I just rented the Redbox version and that seems to match for RedBox. Are the Retail and Redbox versions ever the same? I know that most of the time they are not.

hvnphoto
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Re: The Wall

Post by hvnphoto » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:36 pm

bretb wrote:
drbuckingham wrote:Is that the retail version, redbox version, etc.?

I just rented the Redbox version and that seems to match for RedBox. Are the Retail and Redbox versions ever the same? I know that most of the time they are not.
Here is a good way to tell. If the main audio track is DTS-HD MA Surround 5.1 then both the Redbox and Retail versions will be the same.

If the main audio track is TrueHD 7.1 Atmos Surround 7.1 then the playlist for the respective version will be different. Reason being rental copies exclude the 7.1 track. I don't know if the same applies to DTS-HD MA Surround 7.1 but I would assume so.

Sorry for not posting the version since I assumed you guys knew. Hope this helps.

drbuckingham
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Re: The Wall

Post by drbuckingham » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:53 pm

Thank you for the information. I will bear that in mind.

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Re: The Wall

Post by mtnwatchdog » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:27 pm

I know this was quite a while ago, but how did you determine 273 was the correct .mpls file? Makemkv 1.14.2 does not show an FPL entry or any indication at all. Watching the .mpls events through procmon on playback settles on 129.mpls.

hvnphoto
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Re: The Wall

Post by hvnphoto » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:42 pm

There are 2 reliable methods that I use. The first is an application called Anydvd HD. The latest version will normally indicate the correct playlist using java detection. The second is manual detection. To do this, use Makemkv to make a backup of the blu-ray disc. Open the BDMV file and navigate to the STREAM folder. Inside the STREAM folder you will see the xxxxx.m2ts files. These are the segment files for the movie.

To determine the segments for the The Wall, let's use its sequence: 505,519,513,506,504,517,515,518,508,500,501,514,511,510,502,509,503,507,512,516

The first and last segments are the easiest to determine for obvious reasons (beginning credits in 505 and ending credits in 516). To ascertain what follows 505 take a peek at the last 45 seconds of 505 to see what the scene flows to next. In this case it goes to 519. You will see that the other segments do not flow from 505. You would keep doing this to sequence the movie in the correct order. You will find that the process should take no more than 30 minutes. Most scenes are pretty obvious on how they flow.

Once you have the segment map you can match up your sequence to the available sequences in Makemkv. This process should not take that long as well.

Try it and I hope this helps.

mtnwatchdog
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Re: The Wall

Post by mtnwatchdog » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:28 am

Thanks for the feedback...I'll take a look. It seems the manual process would be a bit tricky particularly for movies that jump around a lot, flashbacks, etc., but I'll certainly check it out as an alternate method.

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