UHD drives

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cipher
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Re: UHD drives

Post by cipher » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:48 am

I've just been reading this thread, and others in the forum, and have narrowed down my choices to the following three drives:

-LG WH16NS40 (friendly)
-ASUS BW-16D1HT (friendly)
-LG WH16NS60 (official)

With the correct firmware, all three are able to rip Blu-rays/UHD's. However, is there any substantial differences in rip speed and noise between these three drives?

Also, are there any important feature differences that relate to ripping (Blu-Rays/UHD's) that I should be aware of?

SamuriHL
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Re: UHD drives

Post by SamuriHL » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:40 am

I have a BW-16D1HT that I've been using for over a year with 3.02 on it and that works great. I opted to grab the WH16NS60 just to have an official drive, as well. The beauty of the NS60 is that it's official and can also be cross flashed to the ASUS 3.02 firmware which makes it friendly and rips slightly faster. IMO nice to have both official and friendly in one drive as you can't go the other way. E.G. Flashing the WH16NS60 firmware to the BW-16D1HT won't make it an official drive.

cipher
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Re: UHD drives

Post by cipher » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:08 am

Hi SamuriHL,

Are you saying the LG WH16NS60 is faster than the WH16NS40 & BW-16D1HT? I'm trying to find out if there is substantial differences in ripping speeds with Blu-rays/UHD's between these three drives. As well, I'd like to know if any of them are quieter than the others or if they pretty much sound the same.

MartyMcNuts
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Re: UHD drives

Post by MartyMcNuts » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:44 am

cipher wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:08 am
Hi SamuriHL,

Are you saying the LG WH16NS60 is faster than the WH16NS40 & BW-16D1HT? I'm trying to find out if there is substantial differences in ripping speeds with Blu-rays/UHD's between these three drives. As well, I'd like to know if any of them are quieter than the others or if they pretty much sound the same.
I ran 3 UHD rip tests using my back-up drive (BH16NS55)and "The Predator"movie which is approx 53GB in size.

Test 1 - with BH16NS55 1.02. Rip took 52m35s
Test 2 - with ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.02. Rip took 40m13s
Test 3 - with WH16NS60 1.00. Rip took 40m04s

The sound level is pretty much the same between all firmwares. The advantage of the WH16NS60 is that there is no sleep bug and it was slightly faster than the ASUS.

SamuriHL
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Re: UHD drives

Post by SamuriHL » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:59 am

I hadn't benchmarked my NS60 vs my ASUS drive, but, anecdotal I'd say that's spot on as I've been ripping with the NS60 since I downgraded it and I haven't noticed a huge speed decrease in my rip times. I had read elsewhere that the LG firmware was slower but maybe that's on older drives I'm not really sure. In any case, the NS60 with 1.00 firmware is IMO about the best drive there is. It's official and LibreDrive supported. What more can you ask for? :D

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Re: UHD drives

Post by GALECOLLE » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:28 am

I'm lost. I read, I did research, I need an external drive. Does anyone here knows if there is one available that doesn't blow the wallet, has a english software and read/write UHD?

The intention is to transcode to mkv and use on PLEX

LG BP60NB10 - $100 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... -_-Product
OWC w/ LG WH16NS40 - $99 https://www.adorama.com/us%20%20%201098 ... _vEALw_wcB
Archgon B07BC9F98J - $119 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BC9F98J/re ... 7f1328ddae
BU50N-3.0OW - $90 https://www.amazon.com/Blu-ray-External ... ics&sr=1-7
BDR-XS06 - $100 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-Blu-Ra ... 0#viTabs_0
LG WP50NB40 - $98 - https://www.amazon.com/LG-WP50NB40-Port ... uage=en_US
Deepfox ECD308-3BD - $60.74 + shipping - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Deepfox ... 67987.html
ASUS SBW-06D2X-U - $69.24 https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-Computer- ... .l4275.c10
ASUS BW-16D1X-U - $91 - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6827135378
Logitech LBD-PUD6U3LWH - $100 https://sano.shop/en/products/detail/10 ... LqEALw_wcB
LITE-ON EB1 $100 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... -_-Product

I'd like to keep up to $100

Thanks

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Re: UHD drives

Post by Woodstock » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:50 pm

The LiteOn EB1 does not currently support reading UHD disks in MakeMKV. It works fine for regular BD, but it is an "Official UHD" drive, and only wants to talk UHD to official UHD software.

I plug mine in periodically to test if Mike has added support for it, but last test (a week ago), it didn't work yet.
How to aid in finding the answer to your problem: https://www.makemkv.com/faq/item/8

cipher
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Re: UHD drives

Post by cipher » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:53 pm

MartyMcNuts/SamuriHL, thank you for that info as it really helps. I'm basically trying to decide do I pay a bit of a premium for the "official" WH16NS60 or save a bit of money and make a choice between the "friendly" WH16NS40 or BW16D1HT.

The other consideration is I just read about LibreDrives and MakeMKV so I'd want to make sure whichever drive I buy can take advantage of this.

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Re: UHD drives

Post by SamuriHL » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:06 pm

If you're going LG you want at least the NS55. The NS40 is hit or miss as to whether you'll get one that's UHD capable. Personally, I'd get the ASUS drive if you can find one and downgrade it to 3.02 and be done. I've had mine for over a year and it's performed flawlessly. The NS60 is a good option if you want both official and "friendly" at least when it comes to MakeMKV.

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Re: UHD drives

Post by jonghotti » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:25 pm

Yes the NS60 is as fast as the ASUS but a bit more expensive due to it's UHD official status.

Remember it's cool to support your local drive resellers who make it as easy as one email or text to obtain a drive. Those folks would be jonghotti <alexcoluzzi32@gmail.com>, Billycarr11 <billycar5924@gmail.com> and MartyMcNuts <martymcnuts@outlook.com>.

Thank you!

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Re: UHD drives

Post by GALECOLLE » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:38 pm

Woodstock wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:50 pm
The LiteOn EB1 does not currently support reading UHD disks in MakeMKV. It works fine for regular BD, but it is an "Official UHD" drive, and only wants to talk UHD to official UHD software.

I plug mine in periodically to test if Mike has added support for it, but last test (a week ago), it didn't work yet.
Thank you for the input. Do you know if from that list there is one that we can use? Or maybe one that is not listed that would work?

MartyMcNuts
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Re: UHD drives

Post by MartyMcNuts » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:19 pm

GALECOLLE wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:38 pm
Woodstock wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:50 pm
The LiteOn EB1 does not currently support reading UHD disks in MakeMKV. It works fine for regular BD, but it is an "Official UHD" drive, and only wants to talk UHD to official UHD software.

I plug mine in periodically to test if Mike has added support for it, but last test (a week ago), it didn't work yet.
Thank you for the input. Do you know if from that list there is one that we can use? Or maybe one that is not listed that would work?
GALECOLLE, I think the BU50N cross-flashed to BU40N 1.00 would work. (I don't have one so never tried it and cannot confirm.)

Does anyone know for sure if this works? @Billycar11, @jonghotti

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UHD drives

Post by jonghotti » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:39 pm

Whoops I was replying to a post from 2017.
Last edited by jonghotti on Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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UHD drives

Post by jonghotti » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:42 pm


[/quote]
BU50N cross-flashed to BU40N 1.00
Does anyone know for sure if this works? @Billycar11, @jonghotti[/quote]

Yes works all day long. I sold the few BU50s I had and stick with the BU40N the legit one with the UHD Blu Ray logo on the bezel.

GALECOLLE
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Re: UHD drives

Post by GALECOLLE » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:55 pm

jonghotti wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:42 pm
BU50N cross-flashed to BU40N 1.00
Does anyone know for sure if this works? @Billycar11, @jonghotti[/quote]

Yes works all day long. I sold the few BU50s I had and stick with the BU40N the legit one with the UHD Blu Ray logo on the bezel.
[/quote]

I'm not sure what exactly is to do a cross-flash but seems that at least there is one that I could try. I'd need to educate myself to learn it.

Not sure if this is possible but could I get an internal drive and buy a cable that converts SATA to USB 3.0? Power would be a problem maybe.

The other thing is that I saw people mentioning about supporting local, I liked the idea I think that I will send an email to those folks and see if there is someone around.

Thanks

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