UHD drives

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SamuriHL
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Re: UHD drives

Post by SamuriHL »

I don't know enough about those drives to be able to say for sure. If they are the same chipset as the rest of the lg based drives we deal with then in theory any of the uhd friendly firmware should work. Having not used one though I don't really know.

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John Entwistle
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Re: UHD drives

Post by John Entwistle »

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inflate
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Re: UHD drives

Post by inflate »

So, the Cinematic Universal Edition from Wal-mart can be ripped. I know this because I bought a Cinematic Universal Edition from Best Buy that gives that error indicating the disk is bad. Indeed, my OPPO froze a couple of times. Now I get to have fun with trying to get Disney to refund my money for the disc I got from Best Buy. :mrgreen:
CSmuggler
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Re: UHD drives

Post by CSmuggler »

For a few months my ASUS_BW-16D1HT was working fine.

Now suddenly it won't read any discs.

Someone commented that UHD discs may have messed up the drive.

Other people are talking about calibration data being corrupt.

I've tried to refresh the drive to 3.1MK, and then back to 3.02, and there is no difference.

Has anyone had this problem, or know what's happening? Honestly I double there has been more than 20 discs in the drive since I got it a year ago.

PLEASE advise. I REALLY want this working again... of course.
VarHD
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Re: UHD drives

Post by VarHD »

CSmuggler wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:05 pm
I've tried to refresh the drive to 3.1MK, and then back to 3.02, and there is no difference.
Did you try the DE version of 3.02 (not MK)? If not - try it, that's the one that helped me.
CSmuggler
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Re: UHD drives

Post by CSmuggler »

VarHD wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:21 pm
Did you try the DE version of 3.02 (not MK)? If not - try it, that's the one that helped me.
Yes, I did, the tried the MK again, and before posting this I tried the DE version of 3.02 again. Still doesn't read any discs. It's odd because it seemed to happen suddenly. It tries to read, but fails.

Help! And thanks.
Billycar11
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Re: UHD drives

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CSmuggler wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:33 pm

Yes, I did, the tried the MK again, and before posting this I tried the DE version of 3.02 again. Still doesn't read any discs. It's odd because it seemed to happen suddenly. It tries to read, but fails.

Help! And thanks.
It's dead I have seen a few Asus's fail like that all of the sudden they will read nothing.
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CSmuggler
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Re: UHD drives

Post by CSmuggler »

Billycar11 wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:36 pm
CSmuggler wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:33 pm

Yes, I did, the tried the MK again, and before posting this I tried the DE version of 3.02 again. Still doesn't read any discs. It's odd because it seemed to happen suddenly. It tries to read, but fails.

Help! And thanks.
It's dead I have seen a few Asus's fail like that all of the sudden they will read nothing.
It's still under warranty, but I don't think the serial number in the firmware matches anymore. Would love to get it fixed.
Billycar11
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Re: UHD drives

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CSmuggler wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:46 pm

It's still under warranty, but I don't think the serial number in the firmware matches anymore. Would love to get it fixed.
i made your firmware almost a year ago to the date i dont think your under warranty anymore unless you got an extended one. i also did not change your serial number the internal and external number do not match. i used the standard data mover tool for that for you to flash yourself.
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CSmuggler
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Re: UHD drives

Post by CSmuggler »

Do you happen to have the file you made, or my original. Or at least the likely file names?

I checked in Asus’ site and it says in warranty until July 21. Maybe I have a longer warranty than I expected.

I actually show in my email, that the purchase was made on October 9th last year, and thought it was going to be out, but oddly it says it isn’t.

Thanks!
Billycar11
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Re: UHD drives

Post by Billycar11 »

CSmuggler wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:46 pm

It's still under warranty, but I don't think the serial number in the firmware matches anymore. Would love to get it fixed.
you can even flash your original firmware back you left it uploaded here https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 330#p66348
i do still have your edited firmware but no need for it if your rmaing
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LiGHTaz
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Re: UHD drives

Post by LiGHTaz »

Hi everyone! I really appreciate your hobby and want to ask some questions just to make sure my conclusions are right.

I'm from Russia and in our shops I can get HL-DT-ST BH16NS60 for approximately $68 and ASUS BW-16D1HT for approximately $75.

As far as I understood ASUS would be UHD friendly with 3.02 (or 3.10 MK) firmware.

Hitachi-LG is official UHD drive and with downgrading to 1.00 firmware it would work with MakeMKV and also there wouldn't be sleep bug.

Am I right? Am I missing something? Or BH16NS60 ≠ WH16NS60?

What, in your opinion should I get?

If everything is as I described then getting BH16NS60 is an obvious answer to my question?

Or there are some things like ASUS is able to read scratched/bad discs more carefully than LG, ASUS is quiter than LG, etc.?

I'm really confused about all circumstances with official UHD / UHD friendly, "ASUS has better firmware", "LG is loud" and so on...
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Re: UHD drives

Post by jonghotti »

BH16NS60 is the retail boxed equivalent of the WH16NS60. I would love to see one in the flesh. For those prices you should get one of each and you're guaranteed to never run into a disc that won't rip in at least one of those.
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LiGHTaz
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Re: UHD drives

Post by LiGHTaz »

Well, I'm not sure if it's allowed to post links here, but here's how BH16NS60 (OEM) looks like:
https://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/blu_ray/ ... 94630.html

And here's BW-16D1HT (Retail):
https://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/blu_ray/ ... 79526.html
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Re: UHD drives

Post by doubles »

These companies just have to make everything complicated when anyone who is doing copies for what they deem to be bad reasons will figure out how to anyway. Sigh.

ok:
1. For the NS60 I am confused whether or not simply WATCHING UHD discs can be done on it or not. Are you saying even WATCHING one won't work in the state the drive is received from stores in? If so, that is stupid that it says UHD on it.

2. Is there any reason to believe Pioneer drives are better than the lg/asus ones, unrelated to UHD? Reliability on BR discs or quietness, for instance?

3. Is this all just about official UHD discs? In other words creating discs with home 4k videos and whatnot isn't a problem?

I am leaning towards buying the asus drive, but it's apparently a rebranded lg and I don't typically like lg (already have an external). Only other choice, though, is pioneer and I think that is a "half height" one, which would be odd.
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